tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post7372896848987400646..comments2024-02-10T05:49:43.712-03:00Comments on Scammed Hard!: What's wrong with 20-somethings?Scammed Hard!http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-9612751911392111242019-09-22T06:14:32.908-03:002019-09-22T06:14:32.908-03:00Born in 1960. Good childhood and excellent grade s...Born in 1960. Good childhood and excellent grade school education. Father died 1974. Drugs, alcohol, high school drop out by 1975. Washed dishes, pumped gas, collected scrap, painted houses. Joined US Navy 1978-1984. Shipyard worker, plastics manufacturer, copier repair 1984-1987. Took a 6.50 an hour in biotech in 1987 (most friends were making 20.00) 18 years with the same company, became a licensed electrician/ electrical designer. Married and bought 1st home in 1988. Relocated across the country 3 times following work from 2004-2010. Have worked maintenance jobs from 2010 to present. My assignments have included everything from cleaning bathrooms to working in temperatures from 110 to -40, medical response, hazardous materials, explosives and high voltage. I presently own a home and have been married for over thirty years. The economy has waxed has waned throughout my life, but hard work, honesty and credibility have always been in demand. I don't judge todays generations. I would certainly have a different outlook if I were in my 20s today. Maybe a small percent of the populations elite have lived gilded lives, but for the rest of us, its mostly been backbreaking mind numbing work. I don't think that has changed. The only difference I often observe; is that life is getting harder and people are getting softer. Generalization is over rated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-69272074097458376072019-07-14T03:53:44.263-03:002019-07-14T03:53:44.263-03:00Shadow Creation is the process to change the color...Shadow Creation is the process to change the color of an image or video..<b><a rel="nofollow">Shadow Creation </a></b> It means correcting the lighting, white color balance, red or blue color balance, so that the image looks more clear or naturalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-85132155647022770112018-03-30T08:14:41.178-03:002018-03-30T08:14:41.178-03:00obviously like your web-site however you have to c...obviously like your web-site however you have to check the spelling on quite <br />a few of your posts. Many of them are rife with spelling problems and I in finding <br />it very bothersome to inform the reality <br />nevertheless I will surely come back again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-71184251935665264132013-10-27T06:17:12.662-03:002013-10-27T06:17:12.662-03:00I appreciate your writing because you described re...I appreciate your writing because you described really an exclusive news. Thanks for sharing such an informative post.gemeentehttp://www.meestersinmanagement.nlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-65672982901672104402011-11-07T23:15:22.468-03:002011-11-07T23:15:22.468-03:00Seriously get informed. The baby boomers are a hug...Seriously get informed. The baby boomers are a hugely diverse group responsible for ten major sociological movements. Sexual Revolution, Womens Lib, and Civil Rights to name a few. What has your generation done so far? Boomers include all the wing nuts from tea party to occupy wall street. Following the hippies were the Yuppies. Upwardly mobile youth and rejecting their parents generations spiritual angle , were as materialistic as hell and they are the bundlers who soullessly created the near fall of the financial system in their quest for riches! The "people" are not in control. The machinations of the 1% are what pulled the rug from under you. In 1979 under Regan I had three part time jobs just to survive 13% unemployment. GET INFORMED YOU'RE HALF BAKED!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-83658975814719494782010-08-27T06:08:38.688-03:002010-08-27T06:08:38.688-03:00I blame it on the porn. And Glenn Beck. That guy i...I blame it on the porn. And Glenn Beck. That guy is the "actual" anti-Christ.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04113715252287941766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-74308229288623767352010-08-25T02:08:10.800-03:002010-08-25T02:08:10.800-03:00I blame Obama. Just keeps encouraging handouts. ...I blame Obama. Just keeps encouraging handouts. Where's the incentive?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-16643217039370099492010-08-24T10:08:13.159-03:002010-08-24T10:08:13.159-03:00"If the only thing keeping this generation fr..."If the only thing keeping this generation from gainful employment as blue-collar workers is their own snobbish white-collar aspirations, then why haven't more of you who HAVE seen the light undertaken this career path?"<br /><br />They outsourced or otherwise eliminated the blue collar jobs a generation ago. It's hilarious/sickening that people still think these jobs exist after 30 years of cheering their demise. Now the cycle of reducing the workforce that started in the 1970s has reached the upper layers of white collar "knowledge" workers, and everyone acts as if a job shortage is some sort of shock?Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11765709902686717379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-44653115515778236612010-08-22T21:27:22.125-03:002010-08-22T21:27:22.125-03:00What was your general school rank and class rank w...What was your general school rank and class rank when applying to JAG, 8:07, and what branch(es) did you apply to? Just a curious 3L here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-46496834412430177732010-08-22T20:07:45.604-03:002010-08-22T20:07:45.604-03:00Aside from the high debt load, and our advanced ag...Aside from the high debt load, and our advanced ages (trade schools are looking for younger people), the paths aren't really there now for blue collar jobs either. Does it really make sense to get more and more schooling and just get older and older?<br /><br />I'd be happy with doc review personally, but that is gone. At least when those of us that graduated a couple of years ago signed up for law school we knew that was an option. $35/hr and they'd hire anybody, because the jobs were considered terrible. Sure it had no prestige and the conditions were bad, but that was money, money that could pay off your loans and let you do something else in a few years if you were frugal.<br /><br />As for the military, I got rejected from JAG twice, even with a recommendation from the interviewer. I got into OCS in one of the two boards I tried for, one of less than 8% selected on that board. That means I was better than 92%, I wouldn't say that is a sure bet.<br /><br />But even that isn't easy. You have to get into great shape and have medical clearances and background checks. I do not believe the majority of law grads will have an easy time of it. I'm glad I even got this far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-33110860735260381582010-08-22T12:33:17.948-03:002010-08-22T12:33:17.948-03:00My sister dropped out of college after one year an...My sister dropped out of college after one year and now makes 50k, with no debt, going around and signing businesses up for some program designed to cut their health-care costs. She and her husband have had a kid and bought a house.<br /><br />I just graduated from a T14 law school with 160k in debt and no employment prospects.<br /><br />I don't think that the world of blue collar or low-skilled white collar employment offers an easy path to middle-class security. But most people don't realize that it's much safer than the glorified law school route advertised to Americans from childhood onward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-35477387706919603922010-08-22T10:31:49.716-03:002010-08-22T10:31:49.716-03:00My perspective about the current situation of 20 s...My perspective about the current situation of 20 somethings is a combination of two things. The economy is obviously a huge factor in why there are alot of un/underemployed 20 somethings myself being one of them. However, I also agree that my generation is full of lazy ass fugg ups. I am 26, and growing up my family was poor. I didn't have much, however because of my socioeconomic status I was very driven to make something of myself. Many people I know who grew up in well off or wealthy families had almost everything provided for them, and they didn't have to worry about many things. These were the people who constantly f'd up and didn't have to deal with too many consequences because their parents were there to always save them financially. They survived off the merits of their parents. <br /><br />For instance, my roommate is 24. He failed out of college 3 times, however he has no debt because his parents paid his tuition in cash in full every single time. He comes from a good family. His father is a tenured Professor in Taiwan, and his mother is a Chemist for a pharma company. His older brother is a Resident at an NYC hospital. He has a lot of potential, and he isn't a stupid guy. He's just lazy as hell, and has no motivation to apply himself because his parents keep paying for all of his mistakes and never let him be a man.<br /><br />I know he obviously does not represent everyone in the age group, however he is not the only case I know of lazy ass spoiled people.<br /><br />Look at television these days. You see rich young celebrities on TV f'ing up and not facing consequences. You see images of a rare lifestyle that most people in this country do not live however many people strive for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-60429054055875693052010-08-21T10:58:07.470-03:002010-08-21T10:58:07.470-03:00Perhaps your generation should mandate retirements...Perhaps your generation should mandate retirements. Until the old make way and train the younger generation, the econoomy will be Atherosclerotic. You are are all right, your parents and their parents made some seriously bad choices. However the most self-centered and short sighted was the enactment of age discrimination laws combined with the wholesale repudiation of mandatory employer financed defined pension plans and retirement health benefits culminating in thier privatization and the 90's S&L banking crisis. It left no choices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-91091198054637812802010-08-21T08:47:33.753-03:002010-08-21T08:47:33.753-03:00Thank for the clarification at 4:48 p.m. It was a ...Thank for the clarification at 4:48 p.m. It was a thoughtful and well-thought out problem of the analysis. <br /><br />As for 9:02 p.m., I am not a "detractor," but I am not surprised that you consider construction and bartending "interim" jobs for yourself, but insist sneeringly that unemployed college grads should be entering these fields in droves and building long-term careers, except for their inflated "self-esteem" and disdain for blue-collar work. <br /><br />3:04 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-10878753262591435522010-08-21T00:06:50.213-03:002010-08-21T00:06:50.213-03:00Wow, Anonymous 9:02, commercial real estate - that...Wow, Anonymous 9:02, commercial real estate - that sucks for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-51763845492593589602010-08-20T21:02:06.340-03:002010-08-20T21:02:06.340-03:00With regards to my detractors, (im anonymous 2:25 ...With regards to my detractors, (im anonymous 2:25 p.m.) no, I am not currently in blue collar. I do commercial real estate development. I switched to this path after being kicked out of a tier 2 law school. In the interim between law school and real estate, about two years, I bartended, did construction, and a host of other jobs. Say all you want, yes the economy is in the shitter, but where there is a will, there is a way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-47760419595951613702010-08-20T18:15:00.030-03:002010-08-20T18:15:00.030-03:00The article in question was likely written by an e...The article in question was likely written by an early boomer who could get a white collar job at GM in 1967 with an English degree (with all due respect to English degree-holders).<br /><br />These people are SOLD on "higher education", without regard to major, and always will be; a self-centered generation which will recognize no new paradigm, nor the demise of the old one. To them, it was always, and always will be, about them. <br /><br />There are people out there who are never going to grasp the concept that the post-World War Two phenomenon, and the several decades of relative prosperity it brought here, rested upon a postwar devastated Europe and Asia which simply no longer exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-40522673463128722852010-08-20T17:15:17.883-03:002010-08-20T17:15:17.883-03:00Family friend of mine, whom I used to baby-sit man...Family friend of mine, whom I used to baby-sit many moons ago, is now all grown up and mid-20-something.<br /><br />She went to college, landed a "job" and busts her hump every day for pittance wages. <br /><br />She's bright and hard-working. However, she fights malaise because of her future prospects. What "career path" awaits her? How can she change her trajectory with experience at a minimum-wage job? With what is she supposed to invest in order to go to the next step, whatever the hell that is - more education?<br /><br />She must be in "emerging adulthood." Right.dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-50296511727889009032010-08-20T17:07:02.762-03:002010-08-20T17:07:02.762-03:00Great post as always.
Made me think of the insane...Great post as always.<br /><br />Made me think of the insane generational double standard with wall street when I read this:<br /><br />http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703824304575435494221610702.html?mod=WSJ_hp_editorsPicks_2<br /><br />Especially after I saw this:<br /><br />http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/16/the_food_bubble_how_wall_streetDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15729532031872959652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-64359361630524463372010-08-20T16:48:20.085-03:002010-08-20T16:48:20.085-03:003:04, I don't think anyone is claiming there i...3:04, I don't think anyone is claiming there is an abundance of romantic blue-collar jobs. Part of the argument I tried to present is that there is a distinct lack of entry-level work, either white or blue-collar, that was present one or two generations ago. This is a major factor contributing to the crunch that 20-somethings are faced with. <br /><br />The problem isn't so much that "paths are closed," it's that we've closed down, outsourced, or simply debased the manufacturing and low-level white-collar economies in this country to the point that they don't exist anymore, at least not at levels necessary to employ tens of millions of un/underemployed. <br /><br />That being said, at 18 I would recommend anyone to look seriously at building and learning a trade rather than taking the route I took, college and later law school. They will probably have just as difficult a time, and it's sure to be no golden ticket, but at least they will have a real, pliable skill. As for why legions of underemployed law grads don't all take up plumbing...at this point, having plunked down for 7+ years of higher education, does anyone really have the stomach to spend more years paying for trade school, then more time apprenticing? How many hats must a 20-something wear, how many semesters' worth of tuition must they pay, how many degrees, certifications, and qualifications are needed before someone can get a decent job? I'm certainly not going to turn around and double down for yet more schooling. <br /><br />I would say more young people should consider military service, but what happens when you come out? Also, to hear it told, the ranks are already bristling with enlistees and commissions, and many of the most desirable entry tracks (OCS for college grads, or JAG for lawyers) are reporting record-breaking applications every time a new application board is held. <br /><br />So what happens when an entire generation is thrown out into a world that neither wants nor can employ them? We can't all become carpenters, we can't all join the army. Not everyone can do TFA, and they certainly can't intern/work for free indefinitely. There is truly no good ending in sight.Scammed Hard!https://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-29024631336110484832010-08-20T16:21:06.108-03:002010-08-20T16:21:06.108-03:00What's wrong with 20-something's? How abo...What's wrong with 20-something's? How about "What's wrong with their parents who gave them no guidance on accruing debt, detecting fraud, starting a family, and other real issues rather than shoving them in an undergraduate school and saying 'My's work's finished!'"<br /><br />Parenting in general over the last 50-60 years has been nothing but rotten for the most part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-47645036244886425272010-08-20T15:29:58.801-03:002010-08-20T15:29:58.801-03:00Anonymous @3:04 PM is correct here. The entry pat...Anonymous @3:04 PM is correct here. The entry paths into blue-collar work are just as closed in today's economy as they are for 'white-collar', 'professional' positions. And wage deflation is just as apparent.<br /><br />In the 1970s and early 1980s it was possible to get an entry-level job in a factory or foundry and buy a modest home with that income. Then - if you wanted to - you could try for an internal promotion to an apprenticeship, and learn a skilled trade. This provided more job security and put you squarely into the ranks of the middle class.<br /><br />Now the foundries and factories are almost all gone. Chrysler and GM are hiring new employees at $13/hour (~$26K per annum) and shit benefits. The in-house tradesmen are all gone too - supplanted by non-union contractors who are paid $15 hourly with a 1099 and no benefits. You can try going down to the union halls and applying for an apprenticeship, but the building trades have all but collapsed in the last two years. There isn't enough work to go around for the masters and journeymen. And that high-flight college degree you were so proud of will look very out of place on that application. I should also mention all the ads I've been seeing lately for $12/hr electricians. The WSJ recently ran an article quoting a businessman complaining that he could not find any qualified $13/hr machinists. It normally takes five or more years of training to become a machinist.<br /><br />And the NYT article? Utter tripe, for all the reasons mentioned. In this country you used to be able to give up on your nebulous and farfetched dreams for security and a decent income. Now it's your dreams, or nothing. Why not try to become a painter/sculptor/actor/blogger/playwright/whatever? What else are you going to do?Spengler's Newly Unemployed Shop Ratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-83832662013737480812010-08-20T15:21:26.037-03:002010-08-20T15:21:26.037-03:00Excellent post! This is a smart blog, one of my fa...Excellent post! This is a smart blog, one of my favorites among the scamblog community. In particular, I like the birds eye view perspective and reality based arguments. We need more of this common sense, and less fashionable, partisan nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-61885150627191701502010-08-20T15:04:28.963-03:002010-08-20T15:04:28.963-03:00"There are a multitude of factors but I think..."There are a multitude of factors but I think the key ones are; a disdain for blue collar work and the self esteem movement. Both of these have produced a generation, quite like you brilliantly stated, that expects and desires to have white collar jobs. Yet, most of these kids don't realize that Joe the bartender or bob the plumber will probably be making more than their lawyer/accountant ass with far less debt and stress."<br /><br />Are you a blue-collar worker, Anon 2:25? Is the author of this blog? I ask because from L4L to every other scamblogger there is this romanticization of blue-collar work as an easily available, viable alternative to law and other professions; and yet I see few people who have made that transition. If the only thing keeping this generation from gainful employment as blue-collar workers is their own snobbish white-collar aspirations, then why haven't more of you who HAVE seen the light undertaken this career path?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-24734370515864679992010-08-20T14:25:54.879-03:002010-08-20T14:25:54.879-03:00There are a multitude of factors but I think the k...There are a multitude of factors but I think the key ones are; a disdain for blue collar work and the self esteem movement. Both of these have produced a generation, quite like you brilliantly stated, that expects and desires to have white collar jobs. Yet, most of these kids don't realize that Joe the bartender or bob the plumber will probably be making more than their lawyer/accountant ass with far less debt and stress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com