<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386</id><updated>2012-02-16T18:06:32.653-03:00</updated><category term='Minnesota state courts'/><category term='blame game'/><category term='top-law-schools.com'/><category term='misleading employment statistics'/><category term='Obama town hall'/><category term='scammmed'/><category term='prospective law students'/><category term='career services'/><category term='Minnesota lawyering'/><category term='legal outsourcing'/><category term='Anthony Doria'/><category term='shitty advice'/><category term='ABA fail'/><category term='law school'/><category term='University of Minnesota Law School'/><category term='India'/><category term='Ted Brassfield'/><category term='fraud'/><category term='doc review'/><category term='lost generation'/><category term='no jobs for law graduates'/><category term='Duke Bridge to Practice'/><category term='dropping out'/><category term='advice'/><category term='prospective students'/><category term='clueless 0Ls'/><category term='3Ls'/><category term='student loans'/><category term='SMU Dedman'/><category term='Vermont Law School'/><category term='law school fraud'/><category term='cooking the books'/><category term='rural lawyers'/><category term='TTT'/><category term='Government Honors  Internship Handbook'/><category term='law school scam'/><category term='New York Times'/><category term='Post Graduate Fellows'/><category term='scammed'/><category term='unemployment'/><category term='Attorney Honors Program'/><category term='20-somethings'/><category term='undergraduate degrees'/><category term='budget cuts'/><category term='fail'/><category term='rural law practice'/><category term='debt'/><category term='government jobs'/><category term='USA Today - Grads taking law schools to task for poor job market'/><category term='0Ls'/><category term='country lawyer'/><title type='text'>Scammed Hard!</title><subtitle type='html'>Sold down the river for a law school dream.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>35</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-6705251001239828232</id><published>2010-12-02T20:30:00.005-03:00</published><updated>2010-12-02T20:57:45.661-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cooking the books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unemployment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school scam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='no jobs for law graduates'/><title type='text'>Subsidized student loans in the crosshairs. Is IBR far behind?</title><content type='html'>Amongst the hubbub the past couple of weeks over the deficit commission's report, one proposal that hasn't gotten nearly as much press is the &lt;a href="http://higheredwatch.newamerica.net/blogposts/2010/in_the_cross_hairs_again_the_in_school_interest_subsidy_on_federal_student_loans_is_i"&gt;elimination&lt;/a&gt; of in-school interest subsidies for federal student loans. This is obviously less attention-worthy than some of the proposals, but for starving, jobless students and graduates, it's a big deal. Bigger still, the proposal to end interest-subsidized student loans suggests that a much newer and less-established program, Income Based Repayment (IBR), could be next to fall under the ax man's gaze. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subsidized student loans have been taken as a given by students. IBR is a much newer program that is only fully available to those folks who are coming out of school after 2008. There are a number of formulas based on your income and ability to pay, and it only applies to federal loans. Basically, it works out that if you have a really shitty salary (or none), like many law graduates since 2008, you get a monthly repayment much lower than you would be looking at under a standard repayment plan. Also, by electing IBR, your outstanding debt is forgiven after 25 years, or 10 years if you work for a state/local government or qualified public interest organization. It's an okay program, and is helpful for unemployed, debt-pwnd students coming out of school during the Great Recession.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From what I can tell, the idea behind IBR was for graduates of expensive law and other postgrad programs who wanted to "pursue the common good" in public interest, to be given a break on their monthly payments in exchange for their selfless service. In the new reality of 50%+ graduating law classes being unemployed, it's more than likely going to become a catch-all for all of us with six-figure federal debt and no way to pay it back. All the while, the government will be eating the remaining interest on the loans, and if you make it to the 10 or 25 year mark, hey, forgiven! With so many unemployed graduates, the government is likely to be left holding a much heavier bag than they figured on when they were crafting IBR. For those un-and-underemployed recent grads relying on IBR, who's to say what will happen in 10 years, to say nothing of 25, as Erskine "Bowels" and his crew look for crafty new ways to close the deficit gap?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally, I don't care that the government is going to be saddled with more unpaid debt. It's not like it's "real" money; they just transferred some digits from their printing presses to the law school dean's office and our tuition showed up as "paid." The school pisses it away and modifies its ledger accordingly, but we're fooling ourselves if any real value is changing hands. That's another issue, though. The federal government created this student loan mess by guaranteeing tens of thousands a year in free money to prospective law students, thereby allowing schools to uniformly jack up their prices to around $50,000 a year. I have no sympathy for the feds if they are going to whine about the unintended consequences of IBR. I do, however, worry about their willingness to repeal the program and leave all of us debtors out in the cold. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our one saving grace may be that, on the whole, the number of unemployable debtor law students is relatively small (compared to other federal obligations). In any given year, the number of people running up red ink for the feds via subsidized, low IBR payments or total discharge should be quite low. However, experience makes me wary. So many unfortunate law students have at least six figures in debt, particularly those who entered in 2008 and after and would be eligible for IBR, in the era where law school COA is almost uniformly ~$50k a year. It's not just law students, either. Every day we see more and more unemployed undergrads with six figure debt, and soon the crop of economic refugees who went for MBAs or other advanced degrees to try and dodge the bad economy of 2008 will be emerging, &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703945904575645201882250696.html"&gt;jobless&lt;/a&gt;. There are a hell of a lot of unemployed recent grads of all degree-stripes out there with six figures of debt and nowhere to go but back to school or onto the IBR rolls. If the in-school interest subsidy is on the chopping block, how long can it be before the IBR payment subsidy and eventual discharge are also scrapped?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-6705251001239828232?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/6705251001239828232/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/12/subsidized-student-loans-in-crosshairs.html#comment-form' title='18 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6705251001239828232'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6705251001239828232'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/12/subsidized-student-loans-in-crosshairs.html' title='Subsidized student loans in the crosshairs. Is IBR far behind?'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>18</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-2736198175333551349</id><published>2010-10-27T22:15:00.011-03:00</published><updated>2010-10-27T22:32:47.399-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='budget cuts'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='University of Minnesota Law School'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='misleading employment statistics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='no jobs for law graduates'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='clueless 0Ls'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school fraud'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lost generation'/><title type='text'>Sounding the alarm to deaf 0Ls, now with tuition hikes</title><content type='html'>I always get a little excited when a respectable news outlet reports on the law school scam. Even though it’s happening with increasing frequency in recent months, it’s still good to see articles like &lt;a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2272621"&gt;this piece&lt;/a&gt; from Slate. Judging by the continuing log-pile of prospective students taking the LSAT and clamoring to get into law schools, all of the warnings and media attention don't seem to be soaking in. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I talk about my own school a lot, but the facepalm-worthy news continues to roll out of that putrid money pit. Earlier this week, 1Ls were &lt;a href="http://minnlawyer.com/minnlawyerblog/2010/10/26/u-of-m-law-school-hike-tuition/"&gt;given the happy news&lt;/a&gt; that their tuition will be rising 13.5% next year. That seems like a relative bargain compared to the 15% increase that was announced a year ago. This is when tuition, fees, and COL at this fine public institution of legal learning are already $45,244, IN STATE. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a four-way-tied-for-top-22 law school, Minnesota sadly is able to delude a lot of out-of-state students into thinking they’re paying for a “top 20 law school,” and I can only imagine how horrendously confiscatory their total COA will be.  Tuition at the school had already doubled since 2005; factoring in this latest increase, it will have doubled and then some. So much for an affordable, public, land-grant university. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, I almost forgot. Faculty will be asked to take a &lt;a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2010/10/13-tuition-increase-1-faculty-salary-cuts-100-screwing-of-minnesota-law-students/"&gt;painful 1% pay cut&lt;/a&gt; to help the school in its time of financial woe. This is downright tragic, and I feel their pain. You can take a look at UMN faculty salaries &lt;a href="http://ww3.startribune.com/dynamic/salaries/employees.php?dpt_code=Law&amp;ent_code=UMTC&amp;sort=tot"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;and calculate for yourself just how much belt-tightening these poor academics will have to endure. This data is by now three years old, so they in all likelihood are making even more today...but let's just say that even for the worst-paid professor at the school, they're losing out on about 1200 bucks. Even in-state students will be out around $3900, and more for out-of-state students. If it's not painfully clear, students are little more than warm bodies, heated by an avalanche of federal student loan dollars, that the school is happy to milk like a cow. Eventually, the milk will go dry (or turn sour, like yours truly), but there is already a new crop of tender young calves lining up at the doors ready to be exploited and drained of their life's blood. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clueless 1Ls took the news &lt;a href="http://www.mndaily.com/2010/10/26/after-cuts-law-school-eyes-future"&gt;surprisingly well&lt;/a&gt;, and even praised the administration for being so "upfront" and "honest" with them about the problems facing the law school. Oh, 1L...sucking up to the administration will get you nowhere. Will you still be thanking them and asking for more after they administer a financial beat-down to you and leave you unemployed?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m not surprised at the hopelessly out-to-lunch perspective of these new students. The Class of 2013 had plenty of time to figure out all was not well in law school land before they mailed in their tuition deposits. Sure, law schools have gone right on misleading them, but there has at least been some rumbling of discontent from the massacred graduate classes who came before them. My theory is that this year, and every subsequent year, of law school classes will be staffed by more and more delusional space cadets. No reasonably-well-informed person can go to law school today without getting at least one pleading, desperate warning to reconsider. The smartest, most self-aware prospective students will look into it and reassess their decision to go to law school. Only the most irrationally self-confident swallowers of law school lies will look at the economy, employment prospects, and warnings, and decide that going $150,000 into the red is worth it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, on the one hand I cheer this Slate article and every other like it. On the other hand, I fear it is creating a generation of even more hard-headed law students, those who resist all of the warning signs and won’t let the full folly of their decision to go to law school hit them until they land on their unemployed ass shortly after graduation. &lt;a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473715517"&gt;81% of prospective students are already displaying this kind of tunnel-vision. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was probably unreasonable to expect the thin, low-karat-gold-plated veneer that remained on the legal profession to wash away too quickly. TV, movies, and delusional baby boomer conceptions of the legal profession have been projected onto young people for far too long. Law schools weren't going to let a few tens of thousands of pesky unemployed scam victims ruin the lie for everyone. With a 20% increase in those taking the LSAT, schools should have no trouble filling their seats, even with these exorbitant tuition increases.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-2736198175333551349?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/2736198175333551349/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/10/sounding-alarm-to-deaf-0ls-now-with.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/2736198175333551349'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/2736198175333551349'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/10/sounding-alarm-to-deaf-0ls-now-with.html' title='Sounding the alarm to deaf 0Ls, now with tuition hikes'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-5427127913730308207</id><published>2010-10-22T17:12:00.005-03:00</published><updated>2010-10-22T17:38:05.903-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unemployment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='clueless 0Ls'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school fraud'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prospective law students'/><title type='text'>81% of clueless 0Ls would still apply to law school given horrible job outlook</title><content type='html'>From the NLJ today we have &lt;a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202473715517"&gt;this depressing article&lt;/a&gt; wherein a small poll of prospective law students, taken this past summer, shows a whopping 81% of them are still content with going to law school even if there was a significant chance they would never be lawyers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Veritas, a law school admissions consulting firm, polled 112 prospective law school applicants in June and July, and 81% said they would still apply even if "a significant number of law school graduates were unable to find jobs in their desired fields." Only 4% said they would not apply to law school under that circumstance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the same time, more than half the survey respondents — 63% — were concerned about finding a job after law school, and 70% said they were worried about finding a position in the field of their particular interest.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now before someone starts sounding off about 112 fo0Ls not being a large enough sample, let's not kid ourselves. This rash denial of how bad things really are is one of the most common characteristics of all 0Ls. How else would they still be flooding into law school--in record numbers, no less--during a horrendous recession that has gutted the legal industry and left us with anemic recovery prospects? It takes a certain degree of self-delusion, right off the bat, to be a 0L in 2010. In fact, I'm a bit surprised that the 81% number wasn't higher, given the hubris and head-in-the-sand attitude displayed by many 0Ls. As we all know, unemployment and crippling debt may happen to their classmates, and is even likely to happen, but it still won't happen to THEM. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even better, 63% of respondents are worried they'll find a job...so about half of even the 81% who said they still would have gone, are they themselves worried about unemployment. What is wrong with these people? The only conclusion I can draw is that they must be so disenchanted and burned out with the even-worse job prospects that an undergraduate degree allows these days, that they're willing to double-down and spin the wheel again for an extremely slim chance at a worthwhile payout. More insanity from the higher education casino. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there are still more facepalms to be had from the survey data:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The grim employment news for recent law graduates does seem to be making an impression on would-be lawyers, however. In addition to worrying about landing a job, prospective students seem to understand that landing a $160,000 starting job at a major law firm is harder than ever. Only 11% of the survey respondents expected to earn more than $145,000 out of law school. Another 29% expected to earn between $100,000 and $145,000, while the remaining 44% expected to earn between $75,000 to $100,000.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still, those expectations don't jive with reality: The latest new lawyer salary data from NALP show that 34% of reported salaries fell between $40,000 and $65,000 for the class of 2009.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Twenty-four percent of the survey respondents wanted to work as a public interest attorney, while another 21% wanted to work in for a major firm.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So a full 84% of these kids expect to make AT LEAST $75,000 right out of law school. Are these people high? Especially with only 21% of them wanting to work for a major firm (of which nowhere near 21% could possibly land the number of open positions at such firms). So 79% of these 0Ls, don't want to work at a major firm, but 84% of them think they will make AT LEAST $75,000 as their starting lawyer salary. Just shoot me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can't say what can account for the continued, mind-boggling resistance of 0Ls to the avalanche of stories coming out of the legal industry about how bad it is. First there were scambloggers, then mainstream websites, then legal media, and finally mainstream media outlets, have all reported, many times, on the diminishing prospects. Yet the lemmings continue on their insane death migration. There was a scamblog-esque story on the front page of USA Today a couple months ago...did you 0Ls not see that while you were eating your morning's corn flakes? It is next to impossible for any reasonably-well-informed young person not to have heard the bad news about law school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These 0Ls, and the 45,000 of them who will show up in the Class of 2014, truly have no excuses. They know things are bad, they've heard about the systemic problems in the legal industry that makes recovery to pre-recession heights unlikely. They've seen the writing on the wall, they've seen the emperor standing naked and unclothed in the street. This boils down to pure, irrational self-confidence, helped along by a steady stream of lies from each particular school. Even in my day, before the horrible unemployment jokulhaups had truly struck, schools were quick to corral their new students in the auditorium and tell them that yes, things were bad, but that was everyone ELSE'S problem. You students at this particular Toilet of Law will be absolutely fine. Just look at our employment data! We will weather the storm. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am running out of sympathy for these poor prospective students. Every day brings a new heap of information that should be setting off screaming red fire alarms in their minds. Yet they continue to march aimlessly forward. As this survey bears out, many if not all are aware that unemployment is three short years and -$100,000 away, but they refuse to believe it will happen to them. To their classmates, sure, but not to them. It's maddening, however, it is no reason to stop fighting the good fight. Some enlightened 0L out there has got to be listening...and if not, well, I welcome him as a reader in three years.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-5427127913730308207?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/5427127913730308207/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/10/81-of-clueless-0ls-would-still-apply-to.html#comment-form' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5427127913730308207'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5427127913730308207'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/10/81-of-clueless-0ls-would-still-apply-to.html' title='81% of clueless 0Ls would still apply to law school given horrible job outlook'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-3074048187705624843</id><published>2010-10-21T07:12:00.003-03:00</published><updated>2010-10-21T07:20:34.314-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school scam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ABA fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='no jobs for law graduates'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school fraud'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lost generation'/><title type='text'>ABA shows up late to the party, over bloodied bodies of thousands of unemployed</title><content type='html'>So the ABA &lt;a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202473544557"&gt;might want to “do something”&lt;/a&gt; about law school fraud. Way to show up tardy to the party (as usual). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even if some eventual cap on new law schools is eventually worked out, it will come many years and many tens of thousands of students too late. Students who were suckered out of their tuition dollars during the height of the scam, as well as the even higher number of poor saps who are taking refuge in law school during the recession, will not be helped by this. There will be at least a decade’s worth of law grads who were ushered off into the meat grinder while schools were getting rich and the ABA stood idle. Ten years, approximately 40-45 thousand law grads a year...400,000 condemned souls. That's one hell of a lost generation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As tuition increased by leaps and bounds, often doubling in the course of a five year period during the last decade, these plump leeches kept sucking and seeking out more warm bodies. As the ABA and law schools presided over a steady decline in decent, sustainable, real legal jobs, they made sure the doors to the profession were propped wide open, and then added more and more schools for good measure. When the economy was battered and ALL employment prospects went into a precipitous decline, making it even harder for underemployed JDs to ever find work in ANY field, they responded by encouraging more people to ride out the recession in law school. Then they printed out more school literature and US News magazines filled with their blatant lies about employment and salary statistics, and raised tuition another 10% per annum for good measure. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I’m glad that someone in that cavernous, non-responsive realm of the “powers that be” is finally going to start a committee to take a look at making a recommendation that might finally be considered to be eventually enacted sometime after 2011. No one ever said they were speedy. At the very least, another 45,000 law school victims will be parted from their tuition dollars during this time and put on the conveyor belt towards eventual unemployment and inability to service their student debt. To top it all off, the ABA only proposes that schools hand out this “honest and transparent” information to students who are already admitted, i.e. those who have already invested time and money on their misguided journey into law school. They'll have thus already swallowed schools’ lies about the employment situation many times over. (“Yes, the economy is bad, but those graduates who work hard and get good grades will always do well.”) You know the drill. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Law students and recently-minted lawyers are truly assaulted on all sides in their struggle to keep their heads above water, service their massive debt, and keep food on the table. We are faced with an ignorant, uncaring, and negligent professional organization that has ceded all responsibility in defending and upholding the integrity of the legal profession. We have to deal with an even more ignorant general public who is still convinced that all lawyers “make the big bucks,” and that society always “looks out” for lawyers. We have to contend with an inept federal government that thinks more education and more students in law school is always the answer, and encourages schools to jack up their tuition in response to unlimited federal student aid. No one is asking for a pity party, but the very best that blathering commentators can ever do is claim that law students should have "done more research" or they should just "look harder" for those nonexistent jobs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;None of these problems are going to be solved overnight. Indeed, the skeptics among us will say that they are too far metastasized to ever be corrected. The fetid, fatal cancer that has been killing the legal profession for years is now moving in for the kill, and the over-saturation and perpetual decline in job prospects is but a symptom. This all may be true, and in my heart of hearts I’d agree that the horrible problems facing most law students and recent graduates are almost insurmountable. A good starting point in doing the right thing would be for the ABA to start taking its mission of promoting an honest, robust, and viable legal profession seriously. “Defending liberty, pursuing justice,” as their motto goes, cannot include sitting idly by while law schools bankrupt the profession of all credibility and debase whatever slim portion of prestige it still has by continuing to accept any student with $150,000 and a pulse. For as much as law schools like to claim that they are the gatekeepers of truth, justice, honesty, and all sorts of other feel-good buzzwords, it’s clear through their duplicity and entirely profit-driven motives that they are anything but. I don’t trust the ABA to solve the problem, as they have sat on their hands for years as the law school scam got woefully out of hand, but any step in the right direction must be better than continuing down the current path.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-3074048187705624843?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/3074048187705624843/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/10/aba-shows-up-late-to-party-over.html#comment-form' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/3074048187705624843'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/3074048187705624843'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/10/aba-shows-up-late-to-party-over.html' title='ABA shows up late to the party, over bloodied bodies of thousands of unemployed'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-6094061494150639183</id><published>2010-10-03T21:53:00.004-03:00</published><updated>2010-10-03T22:08:05.367-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cooking the books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='career services'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unemployment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='misleading employment statistics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='no jobs for law graduates'/><title type='text'>Career services steps up to the plate</title><content type='html'>Career Services counselors nationwide finally seem to be waking up to the reality that they have sat idly by while 50% or more of their recent classes graduated jobless. I was initially interested to see that someone in my school's office still has a pulse and is doing some flailing about to broaden the “opportunities” available to law student paupers. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the bulk of a career services counselor’s time is spent trolling non-exclusive, publicly-available job boards and copying and pasting the postings to the school’s own job board, I was intrigued to note that my school’s office has given up on offering students a position within the law. Just look at a recent smattering of re-posted job listings from the school’s board:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Congressional campaign filed intern:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Field interns will work alongside staff on a fast-paced, high-energy campaign. Interns will be assigned leadership roles in all of the campaign’s field operations. You’ll have the opportunity to learn about field strategy development and implementation, and communicate directly with voters. As a field intern, you’ll gain valuable professional experience by working directly with staff to identify and mobilize voters to ensure victory on Election Day. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Responsibilities include, but are not limited to:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;• Organizing and managing voter contact events. &lt;br /&gt;• Taking an active role in volunteer recruitment, management, and retention. &lt;br /&gt;• Helping maintain voter database. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Qualifications:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ideal candidates will be hard-working and possess strong communication skills. Candidates should be outgoing, have a positive attitude, and the ability to work effectively in a fast-paced environment. Proficiency with Microsoft Office is highly desired.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where’s the J.D. requirement? Where’s there even the requirement of ANY degree, period? Where’s the validation for my three years’ worth of invested time and $100,000 tuition? Most importantly, where’s the pay? Oh, wait, not only are law grads still being pushed into unpaid internships, but now the search for some kind of “employment” for students has become so desperate that students are encouraged to do volunteer door-knocking for political campaigns as a way of finding “work.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What else do we have here, on the front page alone? Several more unpaid local government internships, public policy fellowships which do not require a J.D. and which are only vaguely related to the law, work as an actuary (also not what we went to law school for), and several writing competitions. Writing competitions on a job board? Does having students slave away on a mock law review article that only three people will ever read, in the hopes of winning that coveted $500 prize, really count as “employment?” Does career services feel good about throwing this nice, juicy bone to starving, unemployed law grads? They need to start ginning up more $4,000, 13-week “law fellowships” where unemployed grads are farmed out to local courts in exchange for a few thousand bucks and a temporary “employed” status mark next to your student record. For statistical employment reporting purposes, of course. At least taking that particular brand of blood money from the school had the potential to give you some legal experience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not content to spam writing competitions with a copy of your 2L journal article, or to take an unpaid internship at local insurance company (in the marketing, not the legal, department)? It might also be a good idea to consider vaulting into another miserable, dying industry: journalism. Yes, despite the fact that you went to law school to leave your undergraduate woes and unemployability behind, you can revisit all of the angst and freshman politics by applying for a position as a columnist at the University’s free daily newspaper. The position is prominently featured on the law student job board. Not only will you get to mold the impressionable young minds of the six students who actually read your column, but you will get to join a noble and erudite group of hungry young minds who seek the truth through the press. You took First Amendment Law in law school, right? I’m sure your experience with freedom of the press will be invaluable in this exciting new position. Don’t worry that it’s unpaid…the experience alone will provide ample reward. Plus, your contribution of one short column per week will allow career services to count you as “gainfully employed” for statistical reporting purposes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A less skeptical (read: gullible) law student might look at this grab-bag of unpaid, volunteer opportunities as a law school’s honest attempt to keep their unemployed graduates busy and productive. Everyone knows the economy’s in the toilet and, despite some false reports that legal hiring is picking up, there are still many tens of thousands of desperate graduates out there flooding every opening with applications. The death cries of the past few classes of law students have been fairly successfully swept under the rug by law schools, who are boasting robust new 1L class sizes. There are a record-number of LSAT-takers this year for schools to look forward to in the upcoming recruiting season. Big firms are able to report “more offers, fewer layoffs” because summer class sizes have been gutted and payrolls have been drastically thinned. It’s easy to claim 100% summer offers when you’ve reduced the number of positions by 75-90% overall. Still, record numbers of chipper young 1Ls have trotted off to their first month of classes, and naïve 0Ls are in the process of applying and hearing back from their “dream” law schools. While many schools, like mine, forbid 1Ls to meet with career services until their second semester (so they can concentrate on Torts and Contracts, you know!), it will only be a few short months now before these slightly-less-fresh faces appear at their counselor’s door. Luckily, there will be little bad news to report to these young saps. The economy has recovered, the offer rate at firms is up, and even the 60% of students who recently graduated without a job will have been able to find exciting new opportunities in “related fields” like local government, actuarial science, and even journalism. See, youngster? There is absolutely NOTHING to worry about!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-6094061494150639183?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/6094061494150639183/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/10/career-services-steps-up-to-plate.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6094061494150639183'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6094061494150639183'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/10/career-services-steps-up-to-plate.html' title='Career services steps up to the plate'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-6615708259558096962</id><published>2010-09-22T15:50:00.009-03:00</published><updated>2010-09-22T17:22:54.285-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unemployment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school scam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Obama town hall'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ted Brassfield'/><title type='text'>Ted Brassfield: friend or foe?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TJpj2f3PWLI/AAAAAAAAABk/u_s9U0lQNaw/s1600/brassfield.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 166px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TJpj2f3PWLI/AAAAAAAAABk/u_s9U0lQNaw/s320/brassfield.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5519834081213241522" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ever since unemployed 2009 law grad Ted Brassfield asked President Obama if the American Dream is dead a couple of days ago, there has been no lack of internet buzz. Brassfield himself seems to be taking full advantage of his 15 minutes, appearing on cable news shows and giving a &lt;a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202472331692"&gt;short interview&lt;/a&gt; to the National Law Journal. Here in the realm of Scambloggia, the debate has veered away from whether Brassfield made good points (which I think he did), to whether he is a good representative of the struggling masses of unemployed J.D.s. Or, to put it more succinctly, whether Ted is a &lt;a href="http://shillingmesoftly.blogspot.com/2010/09/ted-brassfield-is-everyman-if-everyman.html"&gt;douche &lt;/a&gt;or &lt;a href="http://firsttiertoilet.blogspot.com/2010/09/in-defense-of-ted-brassfield.html"&gt;not&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Worrying too much about whether he is a goofball or not is beside the point. Certainly, the focus of most news clips of him hasn't been on his personal life or potential failings as a lawyer. If anything, reaction has been something like, "Gee, even smart looking lawyer nerd kids are out of luck these days." For a movement that has had a hard time getting over the "cry me a river" factor from its detractors, any opportunity that arises to shine a light on unemployment and debt among law grads is a good one. Ted Brassfield is merely a vessel. He's the guy we can point out to our employed Boomer relatives on TV and say, "Look, it's not just me who's struggling! I'm not just 'whiny!'" &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don’t really care if Brassfield has an iPhone or takes vacations. The personal details of his life aren’t as important as are his 15 minutes in the spotlight as a member of the Lost Generation. Here’s a guy with a good resume: Princeton undergrad, some work history, and a top-30 law school. Most Americans would think he should be able to write his own ticket in life.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On paper, and without the (unverified) details about his vacation or cell phone purchasing habits, Brassfield's story is vintage Lost Generation. According to his interview with the NLJ, he had a lot of odd jobs, before finding something relatively stable, but he left it all for his abstract love for the law. Three years and six figures of debt later, he can't find work as a licensed attorney and does the odd contract job while looking for non-law work. As he explained to the President, any notion of getting married or starting a family has long since gone by the wayside.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lest anyone accuse Brassfield of being your typical delusional toileteer who paid $150,000 to attend a TTT with dreams of landing a job with the feds, that's not really true. In fact, he's a lot like a lot of us scambloggers in that his alma mater is # 27-ranked Indiana University-Bloomington's Mauer School of Law. Despite Brassfield being unable to find real work as a 2009 grad, the school reported that 89.2% of their grads from the previous year were able to find employment. Brassfield must just be one of the unlucky ones. Oh, wait...he said that he does occasional contract work. THAT, sir, is employment for reporting purposes. Ted Brassfield, as far as your law school is concerned, you are "employed!" &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the most interesting portion of Brassfield's exchange with the NLJ:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NLJ: Why did you decide to go to law school?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TB: I had worked a variety of jobs before landing a gig as a researcher in a management consulting agency. I built myself a potentially lucrative career and had some really good prospects, but I didn't want it. I felt like life is too short not to love, or at least deeply care about, what you do. As long as I can remember, I've admired the work of attorneys who stood up for civil rights. There are opportunities as an attorney to really make a fundamental difference in people's lives. I liked the idea of the whole process of litigation, and doing it in the public interest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NLJ: You graduated from law school in 2009. What have you been doing since then?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TB: I have paid the bills by sporadic contract work. I have tried to drum up non-legal work. I'm not yet a licensed attorney. I'm waiting on the results of the Colorado bar, where I'm originally from.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NLJ: What is your dream job?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TB: I would love to work for the federal government, and I hope that all this attention has not harmed my prospects for that. There are state attorney shops that are phenomenal and would be wonderful to work for. I'm primarily interested in the government sector. The experience I've had interning at the [U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development] and the [Equal Employment Opportunity Commission] and the U.S. Attorney's Office here in D.C showed me that the resources the federal government can bring to bear are incredible-specifically with regard to training and support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NLJ: How much debt do you have?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TB: I have six-figures of student loans, which were all accumulated in law school. I didn't want to work for a private firm while I was in law school. I wanted to get the experience of working at different federal agencies. I had these phenomenal practice-building experiences, but I didn't get paid for them. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Brassfield's law school experience and post-graduate hell doesn't sound the least bit unfamiliar to the Lost Generation. Whatever one might say about his attitude, appearance, personal spending habits (which mostly came from an unverified blog post, as far as I can tell), or overall level of “douchiness,” he’s still been scammed by law school. There are a lot of smug douches in law school. Yeah, their attitude can be grating, but that doesn’t make it any less unjust that they were swindled out of $100,000 and left to rot in perpetual unemployment. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like the 40,000 other members of the class of 2009, Brassfield entered law school with dreams and interests (or at least some hope of employment), and graduated to find the rug pulled out from under him. We care not about the boring details of Ted's buying habits or vacations. We do care about the value of having someone on the news for one 24-hour cycle that can talk about student loan debt, unemployment, and the J.D. scam, and the long term feelings of hopelessness that go along with all of this. For all of these reasons, Ted Brassfield's 15 minutes of fame are A-okay with me, and I hope that enough non-lawyers, Boomers, and prospective law students see his sad tale of unemployment and begin to question their assumptions about law school.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-6615708259558096962?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/6615708259558096962/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/09/ted-brassfield-friend-or-foe.html#comment-form' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6615708259558096962'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6615708259558096962'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/09/ted-brassfield-friend-or-foe.html' title='Ted Brassfield: friend or foe?'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TJpj2f3PWLI/AAAAAAAAABk/u_s9U0lQNaw/s72-c/brassfield.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-9043315423225479847</id><published>2010-09-21T00:00:00.005-03:00</published><updated>2010-09-21T00:44:41.282-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Unemployed law grad asks Obama if American Dream is dead</title><content type='html'>Among today's big news headlines, other than the recession having been miraculously over since June 2009, was Obama's town hall meeting/gripefest/fiasco. Normally we here at ScammedHard! try and refrain from commentary on politics, but when the plight of yet another unemployed law graduate comes up in national news context, it's a great way to make more people aware of the law school scam. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to the &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/us/politics/21obama.html"&gt;NYT&lt;/a&gt;, unemployed recent law graduate Ted Brassfield, "[a] 30-year-old law school graduate told Mr. Obama that he had hoped to pursue a career in public service — like the president — but complained that he could barely pay the interest on his student loans, let alone think of getting married or starting a family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I was really inspired by you and your campaign and the message you brought, and that inspiration is dying away,” he said, adding, “And I really want to know, is the American dream dead for me?” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Brassfield's employment problems and question to the President are, in a way, a lot like the problems thousands of unemployed law grads are facing. While not every older person has a stellar resume like Obama's, so many of today's unemployed grads are hearing canned responses to their woes that sound a lot like the President's. Mr. Obama told Mr. Brassfield, "Absolutely not. What we can't do, though is go back to the same old things that we were doing because we've been putting off these problems for decades...We are still the country that billions of people in the world look to and aspire to."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That doesn't sound too far from, "Gee, I know you've got it tough, young law grad, but look at all of the great opportunities you have. You have a LAW DERGEE, for Chrissakes! People would KILL to have the educational achievement you have. Do you know how much lawyers can make..." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's all fluff! People in the world look to and aspire to us? Maybe, but that's just because they see a highly-stylized version of American life on TV! The most common line that I get from people when traveling abroad isn't about how great our economic system is, or how wonderful our rights and liberties are, it's "are American neighborhoods really like the cute ones with lawns that they have on the tele?" &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The President and all of the apologists, from clueless parents, to law school administrators, and everyone else who is trying to downplay the systemic misery of this depression, just don't "get it." Yeah, they lived through the 70s oil crisis. Big deal. No one under age 80 knows what it's like to come of age and try and find a real, sustainable job in such a shitty economy. They can throw out as many platitudes and evidence of "economic warming signs" that they want, but at the end of the day, they have no idea what it feels like to be faced with the insurmountable hurdles that our generation is looking at. Even those unfortunate Boomers who have been laid off in this recession had decades of solid work experience behind them that shaped their worldview. They are floundering now because they can't cope with real poverty and feelings of uselessness, which is sad. At least they had a chance. Try spending your entire life being told that you could achieve something, that your education was the key to your success in life, and that a decent and fulfilling job was just around the corner, and then being denied that chance. Personally, I'd rather be old and laid off, than young and unable to ever get a start. At least those unemployed Boomers have their memories, rather than a lifetime of depressed earnings, delayed or never-begun family lives, crushing debt, and all of the other attendant horrors that are facing 20-somethings. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What we're seeing here, from the President on down, is a horrible generational disconnect. Obama has a good job, a decent paycheck, and relatively high job stability (at least until 2012...hoy-oh!). He's a "law school establishment" guy if there ever was one, with a host of legal industry feathers in his cap, from law review to summer associateship, to law professor. There's even that vaunted public-interest work in there. The President's life experience is, by any standard, atypical, and his resume is more sterling than practically anyone else's. However, I was still struck by the hammy, lacking-in-conviction response, that he gave to poor Mr. Brassfield. It still sounds like a clueless parent, or a dopey career counselor, all of whom are employed and unable to relate to the young unemployables, to say that "everything will be just fine, and we're just as awesome as we always were." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could go on about the miseries that are crippling so many of our young lives and shutting us out of the ever-shrinking middle class that Obama is spending so much time talking up, but it would cover no new ground. I must, however, applaud Mr. Ted Brassfield for taking it to the President, and asking him a question worthy of any scamblogger. This man is the face of the hellish plight of the overeducated, indebted, under-employed Lost Generation. His American Dream is unlikely to ever pan out in the bountiful way that those of previous generations did. Perhaps it's time for a little further national delusion. Let's redefine the American Dream from whatever it was--2.3 kids, picket fence and a mortgage--or perhaps an Arthur Miller-esque ability to stroll out of the jungle and get rich? In the era of defining down, the new American Dream looks a lot more like $120,000 in student loan debt, underemployment at part-time, $7/hour work, no marriage, kids, or net contribution to society, and a whole heaping load of failure and despair. It's probably not what President Obama was thinking of when he claimed that the American Dream is still alive and well, but at least if we take an honest look at what this "dream" entails for today's young people, we can go on using the term rather than toss it in the dustbin of history, along with our economic robustness and high-flying sense of national achievement.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-9043315423225479847?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/9043315423225479847/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/09/unemployed-law-grad-asks-obama-if.html#comment-form' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/9043315423225479847'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/9043315423225479847'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/09/unemployed-law-grad-asks-obama-if.html' title='Unemployed law grad asks Obama if American Dream is dead'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-1520944188106750938</id><published>2010-09-13T00:28:00.012-03:00</published><updated>2010-09-13T00:48:02.100-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='shitty advice'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rural law practice'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='country lawyer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rural lawyers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Minnesota lawyering'/><title type='text'>Report: Rural Areas Positively Brimming with Legal Work</title><content type='html'>There’s been a lot of shitty advice thrown out to desperate law grads recently about how they can beat the odds and build a law practice. One that will at least allow them to buy a case of Ramen noodles every two weeks to fend off starvation. Last week’s horrible advice to the forlorn masses was for them to hike up their sleeves and head out to the peaceful country roads of rural America. To hear Eric Cooperstein &lt;a href="http://lawyerist.com/small-town-jobs-lawyers/#more-13109"&gt;tell it&lt;/a&gt;, rural America is a forgotten little place where jobs are plentiful, people are laid back, and every little country hamlet is just brimming with well-to-do country gentlemen in dire need to legal services. Well, Scammed Hard! readers, let’s pack Ma and the young’ns in the truck and hit the open road to seize some of this opportunity for ourselves!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The advice-giver in question happens to be a Minnesotan, just like yours truly, so I feel particularly well-qualified to riff on the “opportunities” he’s referring to. Being from this state, I have fairly easy access to what most people would consider “the country,” and actually enjoy getting out of the suburban-sprawl purgatory of the Twin Cities as often as possible. I've even got relatives who are rural residents and farmers, the very people that Mr. Cooperstein claims are desperate to throw money at young law grads in order to solve all of their pressing legal problems. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have always had a bit of an affinity for the rural life, and long ago decided to target my job search to these areas. I would plaster every state trial court in flyover country with applications, I would turn down no job posting from even the smallest firm in West Bumfuck. The job posting for a gig with the public defender’s office in the most flown-over of flyover counties has six typos in as many lines of text, and was even willing to do interviews at the "law schol" for students who had particularly good "writiting skills?" No problem, that’s the job for me! Well, so far it hasn’t panned out. Your Top-20 law school credentials are not going to wow the trial court or local shitlaw office out in the sticks. More than likely, yours was one of 200 resumes they received for the same $40k/year position. Or, as this commenter on Mr. Cooperstein's piece put it, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I did the long commute to my cushy job in St. Paul for 4 years on a half-time basis before deciding I needed to find a career I could do in a small town. I decided to go to law school. I graduated, passed the bar, and had an offer to join a nice small-town firm. The offer fell through. The firm does not have enough work to add another person. I decided to do a full job search. The public defender jobs have been extremely tight. They have had to lay off veterans. A nice prosecutor position had 150 applicants. A law clerk position had 100 applicants. Long-time solo practitioners are scrambling for work. I have decided to go back to my big-city line of work where there are still plentiful jobs that pay more than twice what a local law position would. Sorry to sound negative, I wish the article had been true for me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this tapped-out economy, there are only so many ideas that the tens of thousands of unemployed J.D.s who make up the Lost Generation can pursue. Broadening their horizons to rural areas where they thought their credentials might have given them a leg up on the competition was probably one of their first thoughts. It certainly was one of mine. This “head west, young man” claptrap is not a unique and worthwhile idea to share with the young jobless. Trust me, after several years of scrounging the country for any legal job that will allow us to pay off our student loans, we’ve already given the rural life a hard look.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A big part of this "go rural" pitch is that “the economics can work.” The cost of living in small towns is much less than in the big city. This is true, but a would-be country squire needs to square these “favorable” economics with the fact that most rural areas can be rather rustic and impoverished. For every farmer who is sitting pretty on his $1,000-acre dirt, there are as many farmers struggling to get by. It’s not just farmers who live in “the country,” either. There are plenty of folks who work at the local meatpacking plant, calendar factory, or corn cannery, who make $12/hour and are prime targets for your overpriced legal services. Don’t get discouraged if you fail to land a roster full of big-money farmers with money to burn for your “business advice” and “estate planning” services. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s take a look at the heaping loads of paid legal work that await anyone with the gumption to put on their boots and travel a little ways off of the beaten trail:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The folk in small towns sometimes get divorced, commit the occasional DWI, and get in car accidents. They need local lawyers and they do not want to pay for some lawyer from the city to drive out to the rural courthouse to represent them. They need trusted advisors they can form life-long professional relationships with. That could be you.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As long as you can beat out the lawyers from the many other local law offices, and attract clients despite having no connection to the local town and without the benefit of years practicing there getting to know people and making a name for yourself. Don’t let the fact that many of your potential clients are genuinely at or below the federal poverty line, and thus unlikely to ever pay up for your work on their divorce, DWI, or car accident, discourage you. Let’s see what other perks await the small-town lawyer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“There are many benefits to practicing in a smaller community. First off, there is plenty of work to do. All those farms you pass as you drive that two-lane road into the country? That farmland is worth several thousand dollars an acre in many areas. Those farm families need estate plans, contracts, and business advice. There are teachers, small business owners, bankers, and other professionals as well.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is plenty of work to do, once you wrest a little from the tremendous loads of competition and price yourself in the competitive range of $10/hour. Life in rural areas is often tough and hardscrabble, and frugality and self-help are bywords for many farm families. Paying some egghead lawyer to hash out contracts or give them “business advice” runs contrary to all of the skills and habits that a lot of these farm families have relied on to make a living. Having people in my extended family who are farmers, I’d also like to take a moment to dispel the notion that there are just loads of farmers whose land is worth thousands of dollars an acre who are waiting for someone with a J.D. to come in and solve all of their problems. Yes, there are areas with rich, fertile farmland like this. A quick Google search of the nearest small town to a family member’s farm that is fairly productive reveals there are eight law offices for a town of 3,000 people. Expanding the search to include the entire county that the farm is located in, any farmer with cash to burn on legal services has his pick of at least 30 lawyers within easy driving distance to solve his problem, many of whom have the added benefit of decades of experience in the community and a stranglehold on business. You shouldn’t let that discourage you, though, I’m sure your smiling face would convince any old farmer to hire you instead of a local. That, or dropping your rate to $8/hour. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s to say nothing of the many, many rural areas where the soil quality sucks, but people still farm. The area where some of my other extended family comes from would be a prime example. There are farmers up there who routinely will trade fields or make an informal agreement to rent or till someone else’s land. There are no contracts, no papers, and most importantly no need for overpriced legal services. (Although I’m pretty sure that any price is far too much for many of these hard-up folk.) It would be great if they had real agreements drafted by a lawyer, but it's not going to happen. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One small town job that I applied to in particular is perhaps representative of these “golden, unpicked opportunities for smalltown smalllaw. The town is two hours from any city of noteworthy size. It is even a good 30 miles from an interstate highway. The farmland is of mediocre quality at best. It did have a nice lake, though, and 2,500 people, with a median family income of $35,000. It also has eight law offices, including one where the two lawyers are former biglaw associates who had the same idea to “get country.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even in the decidedly salt-of-the-earth zone where some of my kin hail from, which is consistently the poorest or second-poorest county in the state, they're still flush with lawyers. In this godforsaken town of 3,000 souls, where almost every business on Main Street is boarded up, there are still nine law offices. I’m sure that one more bright-eyed young scamp from the big-city law school will really turn things around out there. They will be able to compete with these fellows and earn a decent living in the meantime. I could go on and on with examples of how, despite being genuinely poor and unable to supply the kind of business that lawyers need, these rural areas are already packed to the gills with underworked lawyers. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know that old Mark Twain-esque line about how one lawyer in a town will starve, but two lawyers will get rich? Small town lawyering is kind of like that, except with about 10 times more lawyers, and a lot less getting rich. Take literature’s favorite small-town lawyer, Atticus Finch. Noble guy, does the right thing and wins the respect of his fellow citizens. He also was paid for his legal work with sacks of hickory nuts, and when he wasn’t earning those glitzy fees, he was working for free on the Tom Robinson case. In fact, I don’t think I recall ever seeing old Atticus do any legal work where he was paid in real, legal tender. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lest the prospective rural lawyer become discouraged about the lack of opportunities for coin out on the prairie, there are still ways to keep from starving. The barter system is alive and well in rural America, and can offer you a wide array of helpful services. Lots of people in rural America who have tillable land will let their farming neighbors plant it in exchange for a few bales of hay and snow-plowing services in the winter. Win-win! There is, of course, no legal document solidifying this arrangement, because no one up in God’s Country will pay for legal services. These, after all, are your “clients,” people who need to rent land or contract for services. They still won’t pay you or even stop by your office, however, and you will be glad you kept those extra sacks of hickory nuts to get you through the long winter. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I really hope that the many tens of thousands of unemployed J.D.s out there are still revved up to leave city livin’ behind and become the respectable small-town Esquire they always wanted to be. The economics are brutal, the opportunities scant, and the competition will be stiff to get any paying cases. Still, that’s gotta be better than your shallow urban lives working doc review in an office basement, right? (Even though doc review doesn’t really exist anymore.) As Mr. Cooperstein notes, “In tough economic times like these, some new lawyers may want to open their minds to a different type of risk and go west—or north, or south, or east—to find a job beyond their urban dreams.” I couldn’t have said it better myself…and I hear that hickory nut cookies can be pretty palatable.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-1520944188106750938?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/1520944188106750938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/09/report-rural-areas-positively-brimming.html#comment-form' title='19 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/1520944188106750938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/1520944188106750938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/09/report-rural-areas-positively-brimming.html' title='Report: Rural Areas Positively Brimming with Legal Work'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>19</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-7544809828563312161</id><published>2010-09-09T16:05:00.010-03:00</published><updated>2010-09-09T16:28:28.241-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='blame game'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cooking the books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school scam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='misleading employment statistics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fraud'/><title type='text'>More on those "whiny" scambloggers</title><content type='html'>It’s been rather quiet here at ScammedHard! for the past few weeks. As I mentioned in earlier posts, I've been a bit distracted trying to get some non-legal stuff off the ground that may one day allow me to feed myself, but that in no way has dulled the pain of having been swindled out of $100,000 and set out with the trash upon graduation. In these couple weeks, there's been no shortage of joyous drum-beating and tambourine-banging among the pro-law-school cheerleaders. The law school bandwagon goes marching along, as always.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is always going to be blowback against those who would dare to question the law school industrial cartel, as a quick glance at the comment section of any mainstream news article on the law school scam will show. So many people, both the general public and even many lawyers, are still operating under the delusion that law students went into this with their eyes open and were fully informed of all the risks. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://minnlawyer.com/jdr/2010/09/09/dear-law-school-its-all-your-fault-signed-recent-grad/"&gt;This particular post&lt;/a&gt; over at the &lt;a href="http://minnlawyer.com/minnlawyerblog/2010/09/09/are-law-grads-playing-the-blame-game-with-their-alma-maters/"&gt;Minnesota Lawyer&lt;/a&gt;’s latest spinoff blog, the unfortunately-named "J.D.s Rising,” attempts to strike back at all of the “whiny scambloggers” and makes the oft-repeated point that “they knew what they were getting into.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our blog author makes the following point:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“I did not know the first-year private attorney’s average starting salary, but I could have discovered that with a little research on my part. While I sympathize with the recent grads on the job hunt and agree with the criticism against law schools’ admittance and career service practices - law school was my choice, every loan I took out was my choice, and the job market….well, it is tight in nearly every field. I cannot blame the schools for failing to put a warning label on their applications stating: “Likely to cause debt and unemployment.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's funny that pro-law-schoolers are so adamant that 0Ls do their due diligence and look outside of the official channels for information about what their employment prospects might be like, because that is exactly what the entire industry is NOT built on. "Disgruntled graduate feedback" is not a category that factors into a school's US News ranking. As a 0L with little to no legal experience and a limited base of honest lawyers to draw upon for information, one is going to rely heavily and perhaps exclusively on what their school, US News, and the friendly legal professional organizations like NALP and the ABA have to say. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A short anecdote is perhaps in order. Back when I was a doe-eyed 0L, I spent plenty of time on those dreaded law school message boards. It was pathetic, and although the economy had not yet collapsed and a few of us were perhaps justified in thinking we would find gainful employment as lawyers, it was basically as much as an echo chamber of stupidity then as it is now. I recently revisited these old stomping grounds and read through many of my prelaw posts. I like to think that I was among the more skeptical of the bunch. I certainly wasn’t convinced I would be making six figures right out of the gate, but I was foolish enough to think I would be employed, in some capacity, as a lawyer. I often cited to the law school’s employment statistics, which assured all of us that we could have some kind of job. Oh, the fool doth think he is wise!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Later in the "Rising" &lt;a href="http://minnlawyer.com/jdr/2010/09/09/dear-law-school-its-all-your-fault-signed-recent-grad/#comment-94"&gt;comments section&lt;/a&gt;, the author even goes so far as to say that the schools’ statistics are “misleading or even fraudulant” [sic]. If someone is willing to admit this point, then how can you argue that law students had all the information needed to make an informed decision? What “better” material information should they rely on? Anecdotal tales from lawyers or scambloggers? As much as we try to dissuade each and every 0L from sitting their ass down in a law school seat on the first day of classes, the official line put out by the law schools will win out with most students. If a 0L is anything like I was, they might hear a cautionary tale or two from older lawyers, but will mentally contrast this with “but my school reports recent grads as 96% employed and making a median salary of $80,000 a year!” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The dissonance between what the school says and what lawyers say exists, but so many young people are not trained to distrust their college or law school. Students are going to have to learn the hard way that even their vaunted educational institutions, these law schools that spew so much tripe about truth, justice, and honesty, are about as forthcoming and reliable as Bernie Madoff.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This scamblogger’s suggestion isn’t that schools put on a bright red warning label cautioning against debt and unemployment, although that might be a good start. The problem is that law schools, through various degrees of misrepresentation, have airbrushed and glossed over these ugly truths about the employment prospects for their grads. As a 0L, still wet behind the ears, I took all of the US News and the school’s self-reported salary and employment statistics at face value. These were respected educational institutions, why would they lie?!? It never even crossed my mind that I might be looking at phony numbers. Yes, there are too many lawyers out there, but that’s why it was important to get into my first-tier-toilet Top-20 law school! Surely this great and noble academy, with its prestigious alumni and long history of churning out skilled and noteworthy lawyers, could still place its graduates. When so many TTT schools were reporting $120,000 median salaries, my school’s reported salary in the $80,000 range seemed downright humble and honest. Lest a prospective student fret, there was a handy breakdown of employers on the same admissions web page, noting that a disproportionate number of our graduates went into government or public interest work. See! They even eschewed the “big bucks” to give back to their fellow man. Prestigious and noble!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any argument that indebted, unemployed law grads get what they deserve is invariably half-assed, because it always contains a hefty dose of “they knew what they were getting into.” Students are always going to trust their schools and the data they report. For better or for worse (for worse), we’ve conditioned this generation and their parents to trust the official story. Especially in the realm of higher education, no wrong can be done because you’re “bettering yourself” and engaged in a “noble and important intellectual pursuit.” Students will naturally believe the information given to them by their school instead of by older lawyers or unemployed grads. They know nothing of “the law” anyway, which is why they’re paying $100,000 to supposedly learn it. Most 0Ls are blind, helpless shrews, totally reliant on their school for information about the law, the legal industry, and their employment prospects. It’s no wonder that so many new students continue to pile in. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The very people who ought to be counseling caution and regulating entry to the profession, these gatekeepers, are not doing so. They’re not just asleep at the proverbial switch. It was not mere incompetence that got us here. The law school industrial complex sold its soul long ago in exchange for unlimited federally-backed student loan money, flush faculty rosters, fancy new additions to the law library, and $300,000 salaries for various deans. The 45,000 victims whose indebted corpses lie strewn about the country every year mean nothing; this is a for-profit enterprise, and those customers have been bled dry. As long as schools continue to self-report (and fake) their employment and salary data, and as long as this is factored into US News rankings with no verification, prospective students will continue to be misled. When the school itself is lying to you from the day you apply to the day you graduate, no student is entering law school possessed of all of the facts.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-7544809828563312161?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/7544809828563312161/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-on-those-whiny-scambloggers.html#comment-form' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/7544809828563312161'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/7544809828563312161'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-on-those-whiny-scambloggers.html' title='More on those &quot;whiny&quot; scambloggers'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-9207338929394966795</id><published>2010-08-25T12:20:00.003-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-25T12:39:57.382-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school scam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='USA Today - Grads taking law schools to task for poor job market'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='no jobs for law graduates'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prospective students'/><title type='text'>USA Today readers reflect on scam blogs</title><content type='html'>Scammed Hard has been busy trying to get some non-law-related interests off the ground lately, but it still came as a pleasant surprise to see the blog mentioned in &lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-08-24-1Alawschool24_ST_N.htm"&gt;this piece&lt;/a&gt; in USA Today about disillusioned, scammed law graduates. Articles like these have started to appear more frequently in mainstream news outlets this summer. While many casual readers of USA Today or the New York Times will likely dismiss the plight of law graduates as a bunch of lazy, over-educated whiners who just "can't get a job," it is my sincere hope that enough prospective law students are noticing the growing number of mainstream news articles cautioning against law school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still, to read the comments section for this USA Today article, a scamblogger could be excused for feeling that the message was falling on deaf ears. This article managed to garner more than 600 &lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-08-24-1Alawschool24_ST_N.htm#uslPageReturn"&gt;comments &lt;/a&gt;in 20 hours, so there is certainly no lack of interest in the topic. Still, the vast majority of commenters offer some vitriolic variation on a common theme: Boo hoo, serves you right, lawyer scum!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A lot of people are hurting in this recession. Undoubtedly, there are comments from people who have been laid off, furloughed, or are perpetually underemployed. Many are probably grappling with higher education debt while working a low-paying job that doesn’t utilize their degree. It all sounds a lot like the plight of the average law graduate, except that many of these folks hopefully aren’t suffering under $100,000 in debt and the J.D. stain on their resume that law grads are. I’d be inclined to say that “we’re all in this together.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sadly, a perusal of the pages and pages of comments on this article reveals otherwise. The newspaper can tell readers all about how law programs amount to three years’ worth of glittery highway robbery that leave their graduates unemployable, but it matters not to many. They’re still lawyers, and therefore evil, malformed human sludge. They all wanted to go to law school so that they could get $160k starting salaries, live the “models and bottles” lifestyle, and wake up every morning putting their foot on the neck of the little guy, grinning all the while. That sure sounds like me, and all the other law students I know! These commenters must be right…to a man, we all deserve the misery, crushing debt, and perpetual unemployment. It is our lot in life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s look at some of the most highly-rated comments, as recommended by other readers: &lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Mark Doiron (6 friends, send message) wrote: 1d 3h ago &lt;br /&gt;Not enough jobs for lawyers? I have a difficult time finding any bit of sympathy for them. Try a career that actually produces something that benefits society--engineering, teaching, etc. --mark d.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;drgary (101 friends, send message) wrote: 1d 1h ago &lt;br /&gt;Lawyers do not produce anything!! They merely usurp from the nations gross domestic production!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The attorneys not only have destroyed the fabric of US society.....................they have increased the cost of doing business in the US............which has caused the US to no longer be competitve in world markets as it relates to the production of goods and services!!!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;bruceton (0 friends, send message) wrote: 1d 3h ago &lt;br /&gt;Wow, these kids simply have not been paying attention. Colleges are there to take your money. There is no promise of a job, no refunds, sorry. As I have said in the past, it's a perfect scam. Ok, maybe scam is not the right word, I suppose you do learn something...like not to believe anything anyone tells you!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;lunchtimereader (0 friends, send message) wrote: 23h 12m ago &lt;br /&gt;So they feel entitled to a guaranteed high paying job once they graduate?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nothing is guaranteed in life no matter what u study in college. That's just the way it is. Everyone rolls the dice when u major in something, and graduate from that program. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course the school will fluff up your ego when u to sign up for law school. They will paint u a pretty picture of BMWs, nice homes, wealth, influence, etc, etc. Do u expect them to tell u u will be working at McDonald's after u graduate? Of course not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These kids need to come down from the clouds and live with us mortals. Everybody is hurting and struggling to provide for their families. It's a day to day struggle. Are law graduates exempt from this? They must have thought so. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Welcome to our world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did chuckle at this one: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Try2KeepUpWithMe (0 friends, send message) wrote: 23h 39m ago &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They wanted to be scammers. Instead, they were scammed themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;L.M.A.O.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a little disappointing to see so much kneejerk hate for lawyers, as well as so many ignorant comments that show a total misunderstanding of the plight facing so many graduates today. Many bloggers have reflected on the "blame the victim" response that law school administrators, the ABA, and many laypeople give when scammed law grads try to speak up. Some will tell them that it's their fault for not doing enough due diligence, despite the fact that the statistics and data relied on by prospective students in making their decision are widely agreed to be misrepresentations at best, and old fashioned fraud at worst. Others will use the old "lawyers produce nothing, they should have become engineers or factory workers," line. This is particularly rich, as there is no viable fallback in a "productive industry" for young people. Where are the millions of good jobs producing a real product that grads can take? Where is the supposed job security that my young friends with engineering degrees ought to have, when they are laid off every 12-18 months and have to scramble to find some contract position? All that this country has left is a service economy, and even that is being eroded in favor of cheap, offshore labor. These Horatio Alger, "pull yourself up" responses represent a fundamental inability to stick one's graying head outside of their middle-management office and observe the economic carnage all around.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What we're seeing here is yet another example of recalcitrant Boomers who had everything easy in life, who lived through an unnatural period of economic prosperity, plentiful jobs, and easy credit. In my parents' day, you could get a B.A. from any state college, throw a dart, and hit a decent paying job. The standard line of "I did it, it was easy, everything worked out for me, you youngsters are just lazy and afraid of hard work!" just rings hollow. The Boomers who haven't been laid off are quite simply out of touch with the modern higher education complex and hiring market. They won't even begin to question the folly of their worldview until they are truly old and decrepit and their Social Security benefits start to run dry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But despite all of this negative feedback, at least some truthful comments are shining through:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;samjung23 (10 friends, send message) wrote: 1d 7h ago &lt;br /&gt;I did some research on this, thank god, before deciding to go to law school. Talk about being poor, or being poorer. I realized that practically most liberal arts university majors I knew went to law school, if their daddy couldn't get them a job, or if they played sports and had connections to good jobs. I said, if I couldn't get a job with my liberal arts degree, what's the point of paying a ton of money to law school and basically have the same terrible chances?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So yeah, I'm still screwed, but at least I'm not majorly in debt AND unemployed. I have an ok bit job right now, but I really am willing to get out of Michigan and at least get something that will pay a living wage. I'm even willing to leave the States. I don't think the people are intelligent enough to understand how an economy operates and help it recover. This country is in SERIOUS problems.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;vandy grad (0 friends, send message) wrote: 10h 57m ago &lt;br /&gt;I graduated 5 years ago from Vanderbilt law school with 160K in student loan debt. I applied to countless attorney and non-attorney jobs (secretary, retail, etc.) without so much as an interview. I was told that I was "underqualified" for attorney jobs because I didn't have 10+ years of experience and "overqualified" for non-attorney jobs because I had a law degree. It was immensly frustrating to have gone to law school for three years and incure this amount of debt to find out I was virtually unemployable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was 21 years old when I decided to attend law school and I fell for everyone of Vanderbilt's deceptive statements and statistics. 99% employment six months after graduation, we only accept 20% of all applicants so you are special, average starting salaries of $100K+, etc. I pay my student loan payment each month so I take responsibility for my poor decision; however, I don't think holding 21 year olds accountable for the decision to attend law school is the answer. The law school administrators and professors should be held accountable. After all, they are the ones lining their pockets by ripping off young twenty somethings as outlined above. The funny thing is they do this with our tax dollars (via federal student loans). There is absolutely no need for any more lawyers in the country. Half the schools could just disappear and no one but the law schools themselves would know or care. This is becoming an increasing problem here in America, the overeducated and underemployed!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;barnzai (0 friends, send message) wrote: 1d 10h ago &lt;br /&gt;If you're smart enough to graduate from law school, you're smart enough to realize you probably shouldn't have.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the end, there is more value than not in having articles like this in the public sphere, despite the largely negative online feedback. The sense I get from most scambloggers is that no one is doing this to try and generate sympathy, as many of the commenters seem to think. Our collective sense of purpose is to dissuade as many prospective law students as possible from going to law school. With articles like these, hopefully some attentive young people will notice the uptick in news pieces about the horrible job market for law grads and reassess their course in life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the folks who are themselves suffering, but are quick to lash out at young people who were taken for a ride and are now drowning in debt, I don’t know what to say. At a time when the nation at large is roiling with record unemployment, a horrible recession, and an entire generation of young people who are being shut out of the labor market and the associated lifestyle they were raised to aspire to, those who will plug their ears and scream petty insults at the "whiners" are particularly repulsive. So many millions of people have been taken for a ride in our glitzy modern economy, be they mortgage borrowers, small business owners, or young students who were hoping to improve their lives via education. All of these people were sold a fraudulent bill of goods and are now left holding the heavy, debt-laden bag. How bad do things have to get before some people care? Will we all eventually have to see our pensions and 401(k)s reduced to nothing, our home values plummet, our long-term underemployment stretch into perpetuity? At what point can we recognize the symptoms plaguing one group of people, like underwater student loan borrowers, as indicative of larger problems affecting the country as a whole? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My first reaction was to think back to a modification of a quote that our friend and former scamblogger Angry Future Expat posted in his &lt;a href="http://angryfutureexpat.wordpress.com/2010/08/04/ciao-the-angry-future-expat-is-no-more/"&gt;farewell entry&lt;/a&gt;. I sort of hesitate to use it, because while the situation of millions of college and law grads who have been sold out and have no reasonable chance at getting a decent job and advancing in life is dire, we aren’t being rounded up and put into camps. Still, perhaps it is appropriate:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;With apologies to Pastor Martin Niemöller:&lt;br /&gt;THEY CAME FIRST for the Subprime Borrowers,&lt;br /&gt;and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Subprime Borrower.&lt;br /&gt;THEN THEY CAME for the unemployed,&lt;br /&gt;and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t unemployed.&lt;br /&gt;THEN THEY CAME for the failed small business owners,&lt;br /&gt;and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a failed small business owner.&lt;br /&gt;THEN THEY CAME for me&lt;br /&gt;and by that time no one was left to speak up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-9207338929394966795?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/9207338929394966795/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/usa-today-readers-reflect-on-scam-blogs.html#comment-form' title='20 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/9207338929394966795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/9207338929394966795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/usa-today-readers-reflect-on-scam-blogs.html' title='USA Today readers reflect on scam blogs'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>20</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-7372896848987400646</id><published>2010-08-20T13:34:00.005-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-20T14:04:00.759-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New York Times'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='20-somethings'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lost generation'/><title type='text'>What's wrong with 20-somethings?</title><content type='html'>My onetime love-hate relationship with the New York Times has transformed into a purely “hate” relationship. I certainly will still peruse the day’s offerings, which is how I stumbled across the following gem. There is a lovely piece from the Sunday magazine entitled “&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/magazine/22Adulthood-t.html"&gt;What Is It About 20-Somethings&lt;/a&gt;?” Right away, we get the usual tripe about how irresponsible, directionless, and basement-dwelling this generation is, and how much this baffles their parents, who, as we know, never had any periods of wayward youth before they grew up and ruined the country. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s happening all over, in all sorts of families, not just young people moving back home but also young people taking longer to reach adulthood overall. It’s a development that predates the current economic doldrums, and no one knows yet what the impact will be — on the prospects of the young men and women; on the parents on whom so many of them depend; on society, built on the expectation of an orderly progression in which kids finish school, grow up, start careers, make a family and eventually retire to live on pensions supported by the next crop of kids who finish school, grow up, start careers, make a family and on and on. The traditional cycle seems to have gone off course, as young people remain un¬tethered to romantic partners or to permanent homes, going back to school for lack of better options, traveling, avoiding commitments, competing ferociously for unpaid internships or temporary (and often grueling) Teach for America jobs, forestalling the beginning of adult life.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This piece puts a new spin on those darn 20-somethings, because rather than simply &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/07/opinion/07herbert.html"&gt;blame it on laziness and Lady Gaga&lt;/a&gt;, some professor has come up with a new psychological explanation for why we just can’t get it together. I’ve never been one for psychobabble, but this theory is particularly dunderheaded. As the article notes, it seems that every generation or so, psychologists are “discovering” distinct new stages of development. It’s an amazing coincidence that these alternative explanations for why 20-somethings are screwed (hint: economy) turn up just at the time some prof needs a grand new theory on which to spend ten years “developing” while he’s getting tenure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The idea that my young brain isn’t fully developed isn’t new. In fact, it’s probably true. This is by no means a reason why we can write off the problems my generation faces as merely “normal stages of development.” This is a sad attempt to punt away the crippling structural economic problems that have handicapped this generation. Sure, my brain isn’t fully developed. Any scientist worth his salt will tell you that the brain is constantly changing, forming new synapse pathways (or whatever they’re called) or strengthening/weakening others. I kill brain cells every weekend when I knock a few back. See, the brain is constantly changing. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This grand, important developmental stage of "emerging adulthood" didn’t seem to have hindered our ancestors. The “emerging adults” of the past built railroads, mined coal, and fought world wars. I don’t like to use specific historical examples, but if 20-somethings are really so cerebrally inept, no young person should ever have accomplished anything. Alexander the Great had conquered half of Asia by the time he was 25. Winston Churchill was a noted soldier, author, and elected MP by 25. Theodore Roosevelt was busting his ass in the New York legislature at 24. Examples like these are often dismissed as “extraordinary” but naysayers, but let’s be reasonable here. What were even your humble grandparents doing before age 25? If they’re anything like mine, they were working in a foundry before getting married, having kids, fighting in a war, coming home, and continuing this established family and career life, all before age 30. There was no extended period of lounging about college campuses, no few years spent in mom’s basement playing Xbox, no extra years in grad school riding out a bad economy. Even most of my hippie aunts and uncles had married and had kids by 25. Psychologically, they were probably a lot like we are. What’s the biggest difference? They lived in a time where an expanding economy that offered plenty of entry-level jobs that paid a living wage allowed them to pursue this kind of stable, middle-class life. There’s nothing the least bit psychological about the difference between us and them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Outside of the world of the perpetually un/underemployed 20somethings, liberal arts majors, law school grads, humanities PhDs, laid-off engineers, and the like, there is a noted absence of this psychological phenomenon, a fact that the Times spends a whole paragraph, out of ten pages, discussing:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;EVEN ARNETT ADMITS that not every young person goes through a period of “emerging adulthood.” It’s rare in the developing world, he says, where people have to grow up fast, and it’s often skipped in the industrialized world by the people who marry early, by teenage mothers forced to grow up, by young men or women who go straight from high school to whatever job is available without a chance to dabble until they find the perfect fit. Indeed, the majority of humankind would seem to not go through it at all. The fact that emerging adulthood is not universal is one of the strongest arguments against Arnett’s claim that it is a new developmental stage. If emerging adulthood is so important, why is it even possible to skip it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s not important, because it doesn’t exist. There’s nothing psychological about our situation, other than the long term effects of feeling helpless and depressed due to your inability to provide for yourself. You can also throw in a hefty dose of anger at those who have scammed us, bundled and outsourced jobs we might have taken, crashed the economy, and encouraged us to saddle up with crippling student debt that has not proven to be the ticket to employment we were promised it would be. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason millions and millions of 20somethings are adrift at sea isn’t because they’re discovered some new developmental niche called “emerging adulthood.” It’s because it has become so hard economically to get a grip on that cherished middle-class earning power and work stability that previous generations enjoyed. At the same time, we’ve taught 20-somethings a disdain for entry-level work that might require a little elbow grease, by telling everyone they could immediately pass go, collect $200, and become doctors and lawyers. We’ve crushed the entrepreneurial spirit of this generation by conditioning everyone to expect a cushy, white-collar job. We’ve destroyed the desire of millions of people to pair off and start families by telling them that it’s overrated and that perpetual bachelordom and avoiding committed relationships is the way to go. We haven’t instilled people with the life script that might ensure their own individual futures in old age, and our collective well-being by creating a new generation of workers, taxpayers, and the like. The root cause of the “problems” faced by 20somethings is totally economic, and is a result of their parents’—the Boomers—own incompetent failings. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This condition isn’t something to celebrate, and it isn’t a chance to bask in the glory of “redefining adulthood.” Yes, bumming around college campuses, stinking your way unwashedly through European hostels, and gaining Level 10 Prestige in Call of Duty can be “fun” for many young people. At the risk of being the old (young) curmudgeon here, none of those things are going to “fix” America, and they are not going to establish the kind of robust, hardscrabble generation that would have a fighting chance in this brave new, post-recession, post-outsourcing, post-weak dollar world. Some 20somethings will relish the “freedom” of living at home and having no responsibilities. However, having responsibilities and being a cog in a collective of responsible, boring, and rather dull middle-class adults is a part of living in society and making sure it doesn’t collapse. Your grandparents were cogs. Your parents might have been hippies, but they eventually had to face the music and become a well-oiled cog. It was this collective journey towards the middle class, powered by a decent economy and job opportunities for young people, that kept the U.S. at the forefront during the 20th century. Now that the economy is trashed and young people are no longer encouraged or self-motivated to aspire to the kind of lifestyles their parents and grandparents lived, there really is no way out. There are certainly a multitude of factors that can explain or stem from the “condition” so many 20-somethings find themselves in. Making up half-assed psychological theories to explain it, or convincing people that spending a decade in work, economic, and maturity purgatory is “awesome,” does nothing to address the problem. There are no jobs, and an entire generation is floundering because they can’t get into the workforce. No one's to say if this problem can actually be fixed, nor if there are any easy answers. However, academic puffs and their pals at the NYT need to stop coming up with lame, esoteric explanations for the plight of this generation, and especially need to stop portraying their decline in economic prospects as a positive thing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-7372896848987400646?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/7372896848987400646/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/whats-wrong-with-20-somethings.html#comment-form' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/7372896848987400646'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/7372896848987400646'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/whats-wrong-with-20-somethings.html' title='What&apos;s wrong with 20-somethings?'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-5305263967636633823</id><published>2010-08-17T18:44:00.007-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-17T19:08:01.953-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='budget cuts'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='government jobs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prospective law students'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Minnesota state courts'/><title type='text'>State government jobs update!</title><content type='html'>A few posts ago, during Scammed Hard's &lt;a href="http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/federal-jobs-update-class-of-2011-is.html"&gt;Federal Jobs Update&lt;/a&gt;, some folks claimed that the analysis was a little misleading, and that students shouldn't write off government work as "impossible." Despite there being only 332 federal government attorney positions open, for a class of some 45,000 3Ls, the law school cheerleaders made sure to tell us that all is not lost. State and local governments can still provide one of those hallowed public-sector jobs for the thousands of desperate law grads out there!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From my old Minnesota home, we have &lt;a href="http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_15799495?nclick_check=1"&gt;this sad story&lt;/a&gt; about the horrible state of local public defenders' offices. This is merely the latest in a slew of reports about how quality and court access have suffered due to (what else) budget cuts. Yes, like the decimated private sector, local governments are tightening their belts and cutting way, way back. And it's not just big, bloated states like California, New York, or New Jersey that are leading the pack. &lt;a href="http://minnlawyer.com/minnlawyerblog/2010/08/17/more-bad-news-for-public-defenders/"&gt;Minnesota Lawyer&lt;/a&gt; has steadily been reporting that clerkship funding is in question, many county courthouses can't afford to remain open a full business day, and that things are only going to get worse. What's one thing that the state is not going to want to do, at a time when they can barely keep the lights on? Hire a new crop of rookie attorneys.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hey, at least it's not as bad as in New Jersey or California, where law graduates are asked to commit to volunteering for local and state government offices for 6-12 months, unpaid, with no offer of full-time employment. (They're compensated with the valuable experience, you know!) The worst part is that these work-for-free scams report that they're positively flush with applicants. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm sure that Minnesota court administrators will want to consider the old work-for-free stopgap that seems to be working so well for other states. What with four local law schools (three of which are middling TTTs) and 1,000 new grads every year, there has always been a surplus of desperate, unemployed attorneys here. What better way to solve the state's court and legal services crises than "the California method?" Although, having gone to school here, I can attest that many state government offices already make use of low-paid (or more commonly unpaid) student and graduate workers to hack away at their massive backlog of legal work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prospective students, continue to take heed. Did you go to law school with dreams of working for free, indefinitely? To carry that $100,000+ in red ink around for six months, a year, or more, plugging away at a volunteer position which is happy to have your free labor, but will never offer you a cent in wages? Yes, the law truly is one of the most glittering and prestigious of professions.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-5305263967636633823?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/5305263967636633823/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/state-government-jobs-update.html#comment-form' title='21 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5305263967636633823'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5305263967636633823'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/state-government-jobs-update.html' title='State government jobs update!'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>21</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-8695004671426358485</id><published>2010-08-12T12:42:00.004-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-12T12:52:49.772-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cooking the books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school scam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='University of Minnesota Law School'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Post Graduate Fellows'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Duke Bridge to Practice'/><title type='text'>Jobless grads thrown a bone, manipulated</title><content type='html'>Back in April, the Class of 2010 at my fancypants, first tier toilet law school received an email that read something like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; 3Ls: Graduate Employment Survey&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We already have 100+ Graduate Employment Surveys in. Thank you to all of you that have completed your survey.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you have not yet completed your survey, please log on to Symplicityand visit the Shortcut on the homepage for the Graduate Employment Survey. If you prefer, you may complete a paper version of the survey in the CPDC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;* Your grad survey data is only reported in the aggregate and is required by organizations including the ABA, NALP, and US News &amp; World Report. Please provide complete data and help us advise current students and prospective students about employment options.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only ~100 out of 303 students in the class bothered to return the employment survey! That sounds awfully close to the class members' own estimates that 2/3 of them have no jobs. I'm sure this small sector of students reporting will have no impact on how the school reports this data to US News and to prospective students. The law is a profession built on honesty, justice, and integrity, which certainly means the school will be forthcoming and let 0Ls know that only 33% of them are going to find gainful employment. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Things must have gone particularly well for these jobless recent graduates over the summer. Having buried their heads in their bar review books, many could probably pretend to ignore looming unemployment and student loan collection monster that was lurking in the corner. Well, &lt;a href="http://shillingmesoftly.blogspot.com/2010/08/legal-market-is-getting-better-is-it.html"&gt;the bar exam is over&lt;/a&gt;, and now it's back to reality. Time for the school to pull out all the stops before those 200 unemployed grads start getting antsy and making a fuss. Maybe they can even "employ" some of them, for statistical reporting purposes, in the meantime!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;PROGRAM DESCRIPTION: The University of Minnesota Law School proudly introduces the Post Graduate Fellowships: Judicial Law Clerks. Up to 5 Fellows will work as judicial law clerks for the Fourth Judicial District for a total of 400 hours at 30 hours a week. The Fellows will receive a total of $5,000, less applicable taxes. Fellowships are for 2010 graduates of the University of Minnesota Law School who have taken the July 2010 Bar Exam. Fellows will be paid with the employees of the Fourth Judicial District. Fellows will receive paychecks with proper withholdings according to the Judicial Districts regularly scheduled payroll process. Fellows will start positions between Sept 1 and Oct 31, 2010.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The University of Minnesota Law School proudly introduces the Post Graduate Fellowships. Fellows will be funded to work in a legal role at a nonprofit or government agency for total of 400 hours (15-30 hours a week); fellows will receive $5000, less applicable taxes. The University will award a limited number of Fellowships. Fellowship money can be used domestically or internationally.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Throwing desperate, starving grads a few thousand bucks and having them work is nothing new. We've seen &lt;a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2010/06/the-secret-to-100-employed-at-graduation-dukes-bridge-to-practice/"&gt;Duke&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/grade-inflation-and-scam-part-deux.html"&gt;SMU&lt;/a&gt;, and other law schools unveil similar programs. The motives behind these programs are shady at best. While the schools will defend them as "giving our grads an opportunity in a tough job market," it's no coincidence that these "fellowships" are being tossed out to jobless grads right around the time "employed-at-x-months" data needs to be collected. While Minnesota owned up for the latest round of US News rankings and reported its "employed at graduation" as 83.8% for 2008 grads, we've since suffered through two years of horrible recession. As 2010 graduates themselves would be quick to note, honest reporting of an "employed at graduation" figure in coming issues had better be below 50%. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's common knowledge that schools game the US News rankings, usually deliberately, but sometimes through what can be written off as sheer incompetence. Thanks to clever ideas like this "fellowship" program, which will move a graduate into the "employed" category, give him a few thousand bucks (after he gave the school $100,000), and then have him out on his ass in another thirteen weeks. The pay is also atrocious during that time ($12.50/hour for licensed attorneys who've passed the bar). And lest an ambitious graduate think that the connections they will make in the state court system will provide a one-way ticket to full-time employment, &lt;a href="http://staging.minnlawyer.com/minnlawyerblog/2010/06/15/chronic-budget-deficits-are-the-courts-new-normal-maturi-says/"&gt;nasty budget constraints are causing the courts to scale back&lt;/a&gt;. Why do you think they are only hiring you as a "fellow," for $5,000 that is paid by the school, and not as a full-time, salaried clerk? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many hopeless recent graduates will doubtlessly take the school's 30 pieces of silver and sign up for these fellowships. Scammed students can be bought off with enough money to buy a few cases of ramen noodles, and the school gets to continue to fudge its employment numbers in order to rope in the next class of suckers who will turn over $100,000 apiece to the law school. When these 13-week fellowships end, the data will be collected and reported, the graduates will have had plenty of time to "network," and jobless, suffering, scammed graduates are no longer the law school's problem. They have already moved on to swindle the next batch of students. Win-win!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-8695004671426358485?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/8695004671426358485/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/jobless-grads-thrown-bone-manipulated.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/8695004671426358485'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/8695004671426358485'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/jobless-grads-thrown-bone-manipulated.html' title='Jobless grads thrown a bone, manipulated'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-8522876759305616919</id><published>2010-08-10T11:08:00.006-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-10T11:39:14.997-03:00</updated><title type='text'>The "plan" : undergrad to law school</title><content type='html'>I couldn't help tearing out my hair while perusing &lt;a href="http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/yourmoney/100311969.html"&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; on skyrocketing college costs that recession-squeezed families are having to bear. While the anecdotes of average, middle-income Minnesotans shelling out $24,000 a year for undergrad, or planning to pay $120,000 for their kid's degree because "you absolutely need it," are heartbreaking enough, there is one portion that is sure to have any scamblogger reaching for the Rolaids.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Mike Bridgeman of Minneapolis said that with an annual cost of more than $20,000 once all expenses are factored in, he wouldn't be comfortable paying for his daughter to attend the University of Minnesota Duluth if she didn't have a post-graduation plan to attend law school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"A lot of kids graduate and still don't know what they want to do," he said. But since she is focused, he willingly paid the $6,000 yearly family contribution out of his paychecks. This year, he's tapping her college savings account. She also borrowed a small amount of money via federal loans, which he plans to help her pay back.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How common has the "epic life plan" of tumbling directly from undergrad to law school become? Judging by the flood of cheesy news stories documenting directionless undergrads, and my own personal acquaintances, every other undergrad who can't find a job is trundling off to law school. How pathetic is it, that after shelling out tens of thousands for an undegrad degree, we've come to accept that it's necessary, acceptable, and a &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;good ide&lt;/span&gt;a to immediately start paying $30-50k a year for another degree?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a way, it makes sense. It certainly was what motivated me to go to law school. Can't find a "real job" with your liberal arts degree, better go back to school and get a real skill. Granted, this was before the worst of the recession set in and I might have had a fighting chance of finding some crappy entry-level job. Alas, ambition and that higher calling of "the law" rang, and it was off to hit the casebooks for me. Only when the prospective students themselves also hit the wall will everything become illuminated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What really bothers me is this parental notion that "other kids don't know what they want to do, but my special little guy/girl is off to law school! They're going to be someone and are on the road to success in life!" Sadly, this couldn't be farther from the truth. The vast majority of people in law school are there because they have no clue what to do with the rest of their lives, they have some vague notion of what being a lawyer entails, and they are led to believe that lawyers make decent money. They take the LSAT, swallow the fraudulent employment statistics from their school of choice, and send off their tuition deposits. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is my sad and law school scam-embittered prediction for our young Minnesotan subject, currently studying at regional undergrad campus University of Minnesota-Duluth. Judging by the student profile at this school, our subject is most likely going to remain in Minnesota and will target at least one of the four law schools in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area, three of which are TTT/TTTT. (Mitchell cracked top 100 this year, big deal, it is and always will be TTT.) Odds are our student is going to be looking at Mitchell or St. Thomas. Because job prospects are so miserable, even for T-1 University of Minnesota graduates, our hapless student finds herself unemployable (at least for actual paid work) during her law school summers, but shrugs it off as "the recession" and soldiers on. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Upon graduating and finding herself some $100,000 in debt, she and her family are shocked to find that, like many of the 1,000 new lawyers looking for work every year in Minnesota, she cannot find anything. She hangs on for a while, perhaps getting her already-generous dad to shell out for "solo practice" supplies, advertising, and the like. Eventually, her debt sources and soul exhausted, she moves back home, seven years, hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the best years of her life down the drain. Her well-meaning but dumbfounded dad sometimes wanders into the basement of his Minneapolis home, where his daughter has taken up residence. As he glances over at the broken figure of his once-happy little girl, hunched over the computer and sending off the day's dozen resumes into the abyss, he gets a little misty-eyed. "What happened to 'the plan?'" he sometimes cries out. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;EXEUNT &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-8522876759305616919?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/8522876759305616919/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/plan-undergrad-to-law-school.html#comment-form' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/8522876759305616919'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/8522876759305616919'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/plan-undergrad-to-law-school.html' title='The &quot;plan&quot; : undergrad to law school'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-5282599249628995372</id><published>2010-08-09T15:53:00.004-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-09T16:33:43.703-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='undergraduate degrees'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='student loans'/><title type='text'>Massive student loan time bomb</title><content type='html'>The WSJ &lt;a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2010/08/09/student-loan-debt-surpasses-credit-cards/"&gt;reports today&lt;/a&gt; that total outstanding student loan debt has for the first time surpassed the total amount of credit card debt held by Americans. Isn't this great news! Finally people have stopped wasting their time and interest payments on meaningless consumer goods, and have started "investing in themselves" and improving their lives through education!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Americans owe some $826.5 billion in revolving credit, according to June 2010 figures from the Federal Reserve. (Most of revolving credit is credit-card debt.) Student loans outstanding today — both federal and private — total some $829.785 billion, according to Mark Kantrowitz, publisher of FinAid.org and FastWeb.com.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is just swell, and because Americans seem to have no trouble keeping up with their crushing credit card debt payments (lol), I'm sure there will be no negative implications for this massive pile of student loan red ink. After all, the debt is disproportionately held by young people with low incomes who are having a hard time finding work. It should be no problem at all that unemployment is highest for the 18-29 year old crowd, which also is the age group most likely to have student debt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[T]here is $605.6 billion in federal student loans outstanding and $167.8 billion in private student loans outstanding. &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;He estimates that $300 billion in federal student loan debts have been incurred in the last four years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;$300B in the last four years? They always said that in a recession, kids would flock to all forms of higher ed to take refuge. How many millions of unemployed people are delaying the pain and making it easy for book cookers to continue claiming unemployment is lower than it is? What happens when students have racked up a B.A., J.D., M.A. and a few other degrees for good measure? We're going to have the most overeducated panhandlers in the history of the world showing up on the streets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Student Loan Justice, a Washington State-based student loan advocacy group issued a statement on the student-loan eclipse, estimating that media coverage of credit cards exceeds coverage of student loans “by a factor of approximately 15-to-1 based on unscientific news surveys conducted since 2007.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But student loan debt, in many ways, is different than credit-card debt. These loans typically can’t be discharged in bankruptcy. They have different repayment terms, some of which can catch some have heavy consequences for borrowers who miss payments and borrowers’ families.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No news here. The perils of student loan debt, especially the inability to get it discharged in bankruptcy, and its penchant for giving doctorates and attorneys a standard of living similar to that of Chinese coal miners, are well documented. What is the natural response to this ticking time bomb of student debt, a trend which will only accelerate given the horrible economy, lack of prospects for young people, and dump-truck loads full of readily available federal loan money?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bob "Disgusting Shill" Herbert over at the New York Times &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/07/opinion/07herbert.html"&gt;suggests &lt;/a&gt; that we all need to double-down on higher education! The U.S. lags New Zealand and other developed countries in the percentage of people with college degrees! (Oh lord.) The ONLY solution is to sign up as many 18-year-olds as possible for higher education and get them on the hook for $40,000 a year in federal loans. Otherwise, we may never see the benefits of having a highly-educated populace that countries like Belarus enjoy. Says Bob:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At a time when a college education is needed more than ever to establish and maintain a middle-class standard of living, America’s young people are moving in exactly the wrong direction. A well-educated population also is crucially important if the U.S. is to succeed in an increasingly competitive global environment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to a new report from the College Board, the U.S. is 12th among developed nations in the percentage of 25- to 34-year-olds with college degrees. The report said, “As America’s aging and highly educated work force moves into retirement, the nation will rely on young Americans to increase our standing in the world.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When this is the educational environment, you can say goodbye to the kind of cultural, scientific and economic achievements that combine to make a great nation. We no longer know how to put our people to work. We read less and less and write like barbarians. We’ve increasingly turned our backs on the very idea of hard-won excellence while flinging open the doors to decadence and decline. No wonder Lady Gaga and Snooki from “Jersey Shore” are cultural heroes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, Bob, the country is going to hell in a handbasket because not enough youngsters are drinking the Kool-Aid and plunking down tens of thousands of dollars for useless undergraduate degrees. This economic crisis and "failure to put people to work" is certainly the fault of a lack of education. Shunting millions more off into universities and shackling them with debt will definitely create jobs and solve all of our problems. And yes, it is definitely the fault of the Jersey Shore crew that young people today are supposedly so goddamned stupid. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would propose that your average 18-25 year old is rightfully skeptical of higher education. On the one hand, everyone with a pulse goes to college. I don't know a single person my age who doesn't have a B.A./B.S. (Okay, maybe the guy at the gas station. Actually, he probably has a PhD.) When people graduate from college after having shelled out 25, 50, or 100 thousand dollars, only to return home, move into their parents basement, and cut lawns or work a cash register for minimum wage, I can only applaud those young people who are smart enough to avoid college. College, quite simply, is not for everyone. The value of a degree is so diluted, with so many tens of millions of students, that it imparts no particular value outside of a very narrow and elite set of advanced science, economics, or other specialized degrees from a handful of prestigious schools. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Young people taking a hard look at college and deciding to forgo the "experience" is a positive trend. If your parents are footing the bill, or if you're a genius who plans on getting a glitzy degree from a top Ivy program or MIT or something, then you probably will go. For the vast majority of us, who were told we needed to go to college to become "marketable," to learn, and to "grow," this has proved to be a pretty lie that has brought most people nothing but economic hardship, a diminished sense of self, and a lack of faith in our nation's once-vaunted educational system. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, on this day when we toast the rise of The Student Loan as the new consumer debt god of the American people, let us also remember and salute those bright and clever youngsters who were not enticed by the fairy tales and promises of the good life, who forewent those boring lectures on aboriginal toolmaking and hegemonic heteronormativism, and are chugging along making the same hourly wages as the college crowd. That is, if they're not all unemployed like the college graduates.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Post Script:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There will always be blowback from the folks who refuse to believe that higher education isn't "worth it." It's easy to be &lt;a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/08/09/law"&gt;skeptical and critical&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://www.ocmetro.com/t-Feature_benefits_challenges_of_law_degree0810.aspx"&gt;to lie through your teeth and put a falsely-positive spin on things&lt;/a&gt;, when one has no skin in the game. When one sees articles like these that draw heavily from the comments of law school staff, TTT administrators, and legal industry apologists, they cannot be taken seriously. When the stories from students and graduates in the trenches are so different and blearly compared to the upbeat forecasts offered by these shills, something is amiss. The question is, which side will prospective students believe? Tread warily.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-5282599249628995372?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/5282599249628995372/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/massive-student-loan-time-bomb.html#comment-form' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5282599249628995372'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5282599249628995372'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/massive-student-loan-time-bomb.html' title='Massive student loan time bomb'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-148971273687462146</id><published>2010-08-06T16:19:00.006-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-06T16:43:20.705-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='government jobs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='career services'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Government Honors  Internship Handbook'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='3Ls'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Attorney Honors Program'/><title type='text'>Federal Jobs Update! Class of 2011 is Screwed!</title><content type='html'>It’s that time again, when desperate law students are scrambling to land employment for the coming year. I would do a post about this season’s OCI and the 2L fretting involved with that, but as the vast majority of students never have a shot at biglaw, especially in this economy, we can ignore that in favor of something that students outside of the top 15% of their class dream about: working for the government. This is of particular concern to jobless 3Ls, who went through the worst OCI in history in 2009 and are by and large still scrambling for a job before graduation hits. Who doesn’t want to find a steady spot on the General Schedule, with the possibility of IBR loan forgiveness after ten years?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Career Services LOVES to push the myth that students who didn’t get a job with a big firm (the vast majority of them) can all just go work for the government. The “Government Honors &amp; Internship Handbook” is put out every year by the University of Arizona. It is nothing short of the bible for lazy Career Services Charlatans. Overpaid slugs from career services offices, from the T-14 down to the lowliest of TTTs, beat the “Arizona Handbook” drum every time a desperate student steps into their office. Never mind that it’s not exclusive, and every law student in the country has access to (and presumably uses) it during the desperate search for employment. Never mind that the federal government was only hiring perhaps 5% of qualified applicants even during the best of times. Never mind that the feds are flush with extremely-credentialed private sector refugees, or as my buddy at the DOJ says, “we’re flush with Skadden/Yale hybrids so students are getting shafted.” No, to hear career services tell it, there is nothing at all to worry about. Tens of thousands of panicked, indebted law students can breathe easy, because we’ve got this stupid handbook!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Something to notice right off the bat about this year’s handbook is that there are a lot more 1/2/3L Fall/Spring/Summer Internships than last year. It appears that many second-tier agencies have trimmed their paid internships and Honors Programs (or whatever equivalent) and stopped looking for full-time employees entirely. This makes perfect budgetary sense, as an agency could stock itself full of summer 2Ls and semester-long 2L/3L interns from the many D.C.-area law schools. This process can be repeated indefinitely, paying these interns at a lowly rate well below an actual GS attorney, without ever having to take on the “dead weight” of full-time employees. If the agency is really third tier, they will seek a continual rotation of volunteer, unpaid interns without ever looking to hire. Because law students are ignorant little shits who think it benefits them to be screwed and work for free forever (for the “experience,” you know?), agencies will have no trouble finding these volunteers. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One thing I like about the handbook is that it often has figures on the number of applicants and accepted students from the previous year, being those who would have applied as 2Ls and were part of the Class of 2010. This class has been massacred by the economy, but they sat for OCI in 2008. That year’s hiring was anemic, but it was nothing compared to how crappy 2009 OCI was, which this year’s current crop of federal attorney aspirants endured. There are going to be even more people applying for these federal jobs this year, because the Class of 2011 has been the most out-of-luck class (thus far) since the great recession hit. In reviewing these numbers and percentages, one must keep in mind that they will be even higher this year and the percentage chance of landing a gig even lower. It’s also important to note that many agencies “request” top quarter or top third and “prefer” law review. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because the class of 2011 will be on the hunt for full-time employment, let’s limit the following rundown to positions that will result in full-time employment for 3Ls. Generally, there are a few (meaning one or two more) summer positions in any given department or division for 2Ls, but when it comes time to hire permanent workers, the ranks are culled. Since we care about employed attorneys rather than summer-jobbing law students, we’ll focus on the miserable wretches of 2011 who will soon be graduated, unemployed, and waiting in a welfare line. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here’s the complete list, from the handbook, of federal agencies looking to hire 3Ls for full-time attorney positions after graduation. For reference, I’ve included last year’s numbers of 3Ls hired, along with the number of applications for the positions received, as reported by the handbook. This list does NOT include the many more agencies who are listed as only looking for law student interns, many of them unpaid. If an agency is not on here, it’s listed as only looking for low-paid or unpaid temporary student interns, and is not hiring any recent grads. I’ve also left out fellowships, which are temporary. If included, they would add a few dozen legal positions and many more non-legal public policy positions, which is beyond the scope of this review of attorney jobs. Also, I realize that there is probably significant overlap between some of the applicants, wherein a single student will have applied for multiple positions at different agencies. Having no way to gauge this, I'm presenting each entity's numbers independently, as they themselves report them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;* Army Corps of Engineers. Hiring up to 15. Last year, 10-15 hired out out 800 applications. Probability: 1.875%&lt;br /&gt;* CIA. Hiring six 3Ls, last year's numbers not listed. &lt;br /&gt;* EPA. Hiring two fellows, last year 2/200 hired, top 10% preferred. 1% chance.&lt;br /&gt;Region 1: Seeking one hire, 1/200 taken last year. 0.5% shot.&lt;br /&gt;Region 3: Seeking one, 1/300 taken last year. 0.33%.&lt;br /&gt;Region 5: Seeking two, 2/500 taken last year. 0.4%.&lt;br /&gt;Region 9: Seeking one, 1/over 500 taken last year. 0.2%.&lt;br /&gt;(Rest of regions seeking low-paid or volunteer temporary student interns).&lt;br /&gt;* EEOC: Seeking up to five hires, last year 5/680 were hired. 0.735% acceptance. &lt;br /&gt;* FDIC: Seeking up to six, last year six were hired “from hundreds” of applications. Top third of class required.&lt;br /&gt;* FTC: Seeking eight, from more than 1000 applications. 0.8% shot.&lt;br /&gt;* DHS: Seeking up to eight, last year 8/"over 1180" applications. 0.677% shot.&lt;br /&gt;* HUD: Seeking 10-20, last year 25/1,100 applications. 2.27%.&lt;br /&gt;* Interior: 3-5 positions, last year 5/more than 700 hired. 0.71%.&lt;br /&gt;* IRS: Seeking 55, last year hired 55 “out of thousands.” &lt;br /&gt;* Justice: Seeking 160, will interview 600-700. Last year, 211 out of 4,121 were hired! 5.12%. &lt;br /&gt;* Labor: Seeking four, last year 5/1200 hired. 0.4166%.&lt;br /&gt;* NLRB: Seeking three, last year 3/800 hired. 0.375%.&lt;br /&gt;* NRC: One position is seeking up to four 3Ls, last year 3/500 hired. Another is seeking 4-6, last year there were 5/1400 applicants accepted. 0.357%.&lt;br /&gt;* SEC: Seeking six, close to 2000 applicants received every year. 0.3%.&lt;br /&gt;* State: Seeking 12-14. Last year, 4/800 accepted. 0.5%.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, using the federal government’s own maximum estimate, there are a whopping 332 paid, full-time, real attorney positions available for graduating 3Ls in the Class of 2011, the biggest chunk of these with the Dept. of Justice or the IRS, where your odds are still only 5%. This year, things look tougher because fewer students will be interviewed. Your shot at most federal agencies (those that are actually hiring) is often lower than one percent. Also keep in mind that many of the above-listed "strongly prefer" top third or above in class rank, and law review. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With approximately 45,000 law students graduating in 2011, this smidgen of jobs represents 0.73% of the jobs that would be needed to fully employ them all as lawyers. As the federal government is the nation’s biggest employer, and has a huge demand for legal work, students can't expect them to do much more heavy lifting than they already are. Given that the private sector and most state governments are still hard-hit and have responded by laying off thousands and taking on fewer new hires overall, we can expect 2011 graduates to be even worse off than their miserable fellows from 2010. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks a lot to the University of Arizona Law School for compiling this very illuminating handbook. Extra thanks to my school's career services office, who touted the handbook and this tiny smattering of federal jobs, most of which go to elite students from T-14 schools, as a realistic way to find employment. And they say that those folks are only working there because they can't work with numbers!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-148971273687462146?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/148971273687462146/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/federal-jobs-update-class-of-2011-is.html#comment-form' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/148971273687462146'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/148971273687462146'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/federal-jobs-update-class-of-2011-is.html' title='Federal Jobs Update! Class of 2011 is Screwed!'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-1684443003269697779</id><published>2010-08-06T10:59:00.004-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-06T11:27:07.810-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Vermont Law School'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school scam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fraud'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Anthony Doria'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TTT'/><title type='text'>Law school founder guilty of fraud</title><content type='html'>Okay, sadly not THAT kind of fraud. God willing, it's only a matter of time before law school administrators are hit with true-blue fraud charges for their knowingly-misleading, fraudulent, reliance-inducing misrepresentations. What we have today is a tale of a law school visionary who only gets caught for his fraud against old ladies. His role in the infinitely vaster, more lucrative law school scam hasn't landed him in court (yet).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From the Green Mountain State, we have this charming tale of octogenarian attorney, law school founder, and Grade-A shyster Anthony Doria, &lt;a href="http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20100806/NEWS02/708069865/1003/NEWS02"&gt;who has a problem with tax evasion and bilking old ladies out of six figures&lt;/a&gt;. "Doria had originally been charged with fraud for taking $115,000 from Barbara Umbrecht of Newport, N.H., in 1998 and 1999. In 2005 he pleaded guilty to the reduced charge of income tax fraud and was sentenced to one month in prison and ordered to pay back Umbrecht."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the article points out, after founding Vermont Law School in the 70s, Doria has had little to do with this TTT. However, his spirit lives on in the institution itself. And would this über-huckster ever be proud of the institution he spawned! According to Vermont Law School's &lt;a href="http://www.vermontlaw.edu/Admissions/Tuition_and_Financial_Aid/Tuition_and_Fees.htm"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt;, tuition alone will run students a cool $41,795 a year. This does not include fees, books, or living expenses. &lt;a href="http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/items/03158"&gt;US News &lt;/a&gt;suggests students tack on an additional $10,000 for those, bringing their yearly total north of $50,000 to attend a TTT in a sleepy backwater and tiny state that won't have enough jobs for them upon graduation. The school even is so noble to admit that only 60.4% of its graduates are employed at graduation, which is even then probably inflated. Having seen the ins-and-outs of law schools' dirty statistical tricks, it's safe to say that the percentage of grads actually employed as lawyers is much, much lower. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just plunking down for tuition alone will run students $125,000 for their three years of law school, a number which exceeds Doria's $115k fraud on that poor old lady. This grizzled old mountebank clearly decided that relieving innocent bystanders of their cash on a person-to-person basis was no way to get rich. Sure, stealing $115,000 from someone and going on a spending spree would be nice, but that money can't last forever. If you set yourself up a law school, one which at last count has an enrollment of 567 students, you'll be in a much better position. ($41,795 x 567 = $23,697,765 a year. Wow-wee!) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anthony Doria should be a model for common criminals and law school administrators everywhere. This guy clearly figured he could put his extensive knowledge of theft and fraud to much greater use, and step up into the big leagues. Better still, perpetrating six-figure fraud on a bunch of hapless law students in a quiet Vermont town has the blessing of the ABA, the academic establishment, and student loan lenders. This isn't like dipping into some old lady's purse, no, no! Here's a fully-sanctioned and approved means of defrauding clueless law students. Mr. Doria, thank you for siring this fine institution and imparting to it all of your best personal attributes. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The apple doesn't fall far from the TTTree?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-1684443003269697779?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/1684443003269697779/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/law-school-founder-guilty-of-fraud.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/1684443003269697779'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/1684443003269697779'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/law-school-founder-guilty-of-fraud.html' title='Law school founder guilty of fraud'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-8679844423439713601</id><published>2010-08-04T17:10:00.004-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-04T17:35:55.301-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='legal outsourcing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unemployment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='doc review'/><title type='text'>The other side of outsourcing: India protects its own</title><content type='html'>The &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/business/global/05legal.html"&gt;New York Times&lt;/a&gt; once again shows up tardy to the party and reports on firms outsourcing loads of entry-level legal work to India. Despite this having been a topic of discussion on &lt;a href="http://www.notolawschool.com/2010/06/india-or-bust.html "&gt;scamblogs&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2010/06/we-knew-this-was-going-to-happen-michigan-encourages-law-grads-to-go-to-india/"&gt;ATL&lt;/a&gt;, and amongst those "in the know" for some time, the publication of a Times article triggers a flurry of new commentary. Which is, I suppose, just fine. The more we can drill prospective students on the rapid decline of this profession and the income prospects it offers, the better. What's really sad is to see my Facebook news feed alight with current students who have "just discovered" this ugly truth and are "worried" about the lack of jobs out there for them. Talk about having one's head in the sand. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, one major point that the Times overlooks, and much of the blogosphere discussion passed over, is how one-sided this outsourcing and undercutting of American lawyers is. Firms in the Anglosphere have no problem selling out tens of thousands of young lawyers and law students to save a few bucks up front, despite rampant doubts about the competence and quality of Indian doc review chop shops. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Much ire has (rightly) been directed at the ABA for cheerily signing off on legal outsourcing in its 2008 Ethics Opinion 08-451, thereby consigning thousands of future lawyers to underemployment and breadlines. This is a professional organization which is supposed to protect the interests of its members and preserve the integrity, quality, and yes, the economic viability, of the legal industry. Having shirked their duty in the worst way possible, it's only right that they be called out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What gets less press is that, unlike the American Bar Association, which is happy to bend to the desires of a few big-money players at the top of the legal pyramid and approve outsourcing, India is one of the few countries that does not allow ANY foreign lawyers to practice law there. Faced with a proliferation of foreign lawyers setting up shop, India's attorneys banded together and put the kibosh on the whole affair. Indian lawyers can (for the moment) breathe easy and not have to worry about foreign workers stealing their client base, undercutting their fees, or otherwise leaving tens of thousands of previously-employable lawyers on the street to starve.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From &lt;a href="http://www.economist.com/node/16693882?story_id=16693882"&gt;The Economist&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[T]here is one determined outlier among fast-growing Asian economies: India, the only big country that is closed to foreign lawyers in any capacity. A powerful lobby—ranging from hundreds of thousands of small (often husband-and-wife) practices to a handful of leading partnerships—resists change. Foreigners who tried venturing into the Indian market are still reeling from a decision in December by the Bombay High Court which deemed illegal the “liaison offices” that some outsiders had opened. The Indian government said (rather half-heartedly) that it would appeal against this ruling. But the climate in which law-related work could be undertaken by outsiders has gone from difficult to prohibitive. Reena Sengupta, a London-based consultant, says she used to see foreign-owned legal-research operations in India where beds, not desks, greeted the visitor; such was the keenness to dispel the impression that law was being practised. Now those offices have simply closed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Indians who need world-class legal advice lose out, says Stuart Popham, a senior partner in Clifford Chance, a London firm, who this week accompanied David Cameron, the British prime minister, on a tour of India. The effect is “to restrict supply and competition and raise prices…you have to fly clients out to meet lawyers elsewhere.” A lot of Indian-related work is done in the more liberal climate of Singapore. Mr Popham says he is frustrated by some Indians’ contention that firms like his own will inevitably take away local jobs. “Liberalisation does not take away anyone’s job…the evidence is that no country has ended up with a smaller domestic legal community after opening up.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the Law Society of England and Wales, getting the Indians to free up their market is high on the wish-list. “We want to invest in India’s potential to become a global legal player…this means new work coming to India,” insists Alison Hook, the society’s head of international activities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But much of her target audience is, as yet, unpersuaded. “The Indian profession will rise up in arms if [foreigners] want to open offices here,” says Lalit Bhasin, head of the Society of Indian Law Firms. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Between the ban on foreigners doing Indian legal work, and the proliferation of Indians doing foreign legal work, it must be a pretty good time to be a lawyer over there. If only our American Bar Association and cohorts had a sense of duty to American lawyers and the legal industry itself, we might see more legal jobs for the legions of unemployable, desperate law graduates. Granted, they will be entry-level, low-paid, and not particularly intellectually challenging. However, when faced with long-term unemployability, or hourly doc review wages, any starving American lawyer will take the doc review gig. Even before 2008, hourly doc review was the bread and butter for many graduates of non-elite schools, and allowed for a somewhat sustainable, if miserable and precarious, existence. Now, even this low-rung safety net has been shipped off to India. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's a sure bet that nothing will be done to stop the hemorrhaging of legal jobs overseas, just as nothing will be done to turn of the spigot of newly-admitted law students who rush into law schools in ever-increasing numbers, paying tuition that increases by leaps and bounds every year, without fail.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-8679844423439713601?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/8679844423439713601/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/other-side-of-outsourcing-india.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/8679844423439713601'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/8679844423439713601'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/other-side-of-outsourcing-india.html' title='The other side of outsourcing: India protects its own'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-4876800538339986721</id><published>2010-08-03T17:52:00.004-03:00</published><updated>2010-08-03T18:34:19.606-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prospective law students'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lost generation'/><title type='text'>The farce that launched a thousand lemmings</title><content type='html'>If you're like me, your morning romp through internet front-pages is peppered with bullshit articles about "Ten Hot Jobs," or "Careers that make $50k with no college degree!" It's always a good idea to ignore these fluff pieces that are written by journalism majors who have no experience or firsthand knowledge of the "hot industries" they write about, but I couldn't help but notice this entry on a list of &lt;a href="http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/08/02/10-jobs-that-pay-50-per-hour"&gt;"10 Jobs that pay $50 per hour." &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;02. Attorney / Lawyer&lt;br /&gt;Hourly pay: $51.33 - $102.00&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Love 'em or hate 'em, they'll always have a job. From building a new office building to sorting out a will, lawyers are essential to all kinds of negotiations and business processes. As a lawyer, you can specialize in the area that most suits your strengths and interests, like justice for children or patent law for new technologies. To get working as a lawyer, you need to complete an undergraduate degree, three years of law school and pass a state bar exam.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's grossly uninformed horseshit like this, spewed out constantly by "news" organizations, that contributes to the (painfully incorrect) public perception of lawyers. A lot of parents of directionless college seniors probably read this claptrap, because it's of that special variety of feelgood human-interest puff that so appeals to boomers. There are plenty of hopeless 20somethings out there with no skills and a history of average academic performance who will see a piece like this and decide that law school is their ticket out of the doldrums. Hey, there is a local TTT with a glossy brochure that might be right up their alley! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a horrible economy, there is an ever-increasing number of desperate 20somethings grasping at straws. Coincidentally, there is an ever-increasing number of law school applicants, despite the declining number of job openings. I never get tired of mentioning that every single college-graduate friend or acquaintance I regularly keep in contact with is either in grad or law school, or in the process of applying. Having graduated college with an exciting array of lawn mowing and house painting opportunities awaiting them, I can't blame the Lost Generation for aspiring to something better (like gainful, full-time, professional employment) and going to law school. Unfortunately, this decision is so often colored by misinformation peddled by media blowhards, starry-eyed, stuck-in-the-80s parents, and (especially) the law school charlatans themselves. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So here's to all of the lies, nonsense, and hogwash that will delude and mislead the next crop of 45,000 law students who will be matriculating this fall. We can even make our own list of "10 Jobs that will cost you $50k a year."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;02. Attorney / Lawyer&lt;br /&gt;Yearly cost: $30,000 - 60,000 (include three years)&lt;br /&gt;Hourly pay: $0.00 - $15.00 (no benefits)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even though everyone hates them (and no one hates them more than they themselves), the vast majority of them will never have a job. From rummaging through dumpsters in a Walgreen's parking lot after dark, to filing frivolous family court motions in an attempt to get their non-paying client possession of a set of bunk beds, lawyers are essential to all kinds of subhuman subsistence-level tactics and low-paid, unskilled hourly labor. As a lawyer, you can see your dreams of specializing in the area that most suits your strengths and interests be crushed as you are relegated to standing in a breadline, or poring over documents for $15/hour with no benefits. Ideal practice areas like justice for children or patent law for new technologies are red herrings that will mislead tens of thousands of clueless, wayward young 0Ls like you every year. To even be considered to work as a lawyer, you need to complete and pay for an undergraduate degree, three years of overpriced law school during which you will learn no practical skill, and pay for and pass a state bar exam. Then, you will actually need to find one of the (nonexistent) jobs. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-4876800538339986721?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/4876800538339986721/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/farce-that-launched-thousand-lemmings.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/4876800538339986721'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/4876800538339986721'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/08/farce-that-launched-thousand-lemmings.html' title='The farce that launched a thousand lemmings'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-4026448855622965758</id><published>2010-07-30T18:02:00.010-03:00</published><updated>2010-07-30T18:47:51.001-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unemployment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lost generation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TTT'/><title type='text'>Unemployed TTT grads take the bar, then what?</title><content type='html'>Minnesota Lawyer gave us this dandy video featuring a bunch of recent TTT grads reflecting on the bar exam they were all about to take this week. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="500" height="306"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gOc21MXSPh0&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1?rel=0"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gOc21MXSPh0&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1?rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="306"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This video is part the of general coverage of the bar exam that happens every year. While asking banal questions like "how hard did you study, when did you go to sleep?" isn't unusual, it is sad that none of the TTT or TTTT grads featured in this clip mention employment, and those that do are most definitely UNEMPLOYED with no prospects on the horizon. It's just a LITTLE ridiculous, when these kids are swimming in debt and are totally unemployable, to focus on vapid questions like what kind of cereal they ate for breakfast before the exam. At least this year's TTT interviewees are just a bit less depressing &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2cujbzclTQ"&gt;than last year's&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Given that the four law schools in this small market spew out 1,000 new grads every year, things must be especially tough for TTT grads trying to find work. Despite its relatively small population, Minnesota boasts the 12th highest lawyer per capita ratio in the Union, with 11.2 lawyers for every 10,000 people. When even your local T-25, the University of Minnesota, graduates more than half of its Class of 2010 without jobs, one can only imagine how much more awful thing must be down in the TTTs, or especially at the local TTTT, Hambone University School of Law.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How long are these people going to allow themselves to be scammed? After suffering through three years and tens of thousands of dollars' worth of hell, just to end up unemployed, it must feel great to be plunking down for bar review and the exam without having the slightest idea about where you will eventually find work. These folks from the lower tiers are, sadly, especially likely to never find work as lawyers. &lt;a href="http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2010/04/money-down-toilet-university-of-st.html"&gt;Nando &lt;/a&gt;has already given us a trio of &lt;a href="http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2010/04/fourth-tier-waste-site-hamline.html"&gt;excellent &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2010/04/stinking-pile-of-rot-william-mitchell.html"&gt;exposés &lt;/a&gt;about the dismal employment prospects offered by these law school puppy mills. I must grudgingly admire the irrational optimism that these grads display in continuing on the road toward lawyerdom, but as a scamblogger, I know what awaits them. We've had a smattering of commenters from these schools show up on the scamblogs in the past few months, and none of them paints a rosy picture of their class' employment. In fact, they all agree that most of their former classmates are unemployed, indebted, and desperate. Yet the charlatans and book-cookers who run these institutions are still busy tallying the seat deposits and packing the next 1L class in time for the fall semester.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ah, to be a recent and unemployed grad. No longer will the school shelter you from debt collectors, no longer will you be able to tell people you're "in school." No longer will you have access to any kind of job you might have been able to snag as a student (because it was cheaper to hire you part-time for $15/hour). Now, no one wants you. Thus begins the long, depressing decline into a broken state of misery. How long will it be before these poor souls attempt to slink back to their former employers, broken and distraught, but $90,000 in the red? With 1,000 new, unemployable lawyers to feed in Minnesota, my guess is that there will be a boom in well-educated Starbucks assistant managers, volunteer librarians, and applicants to yet more forms of graduate education in the coming months. A job well done for all concerned. Thank you, MinnesoTTTa law schools.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-4026448855622965758?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/4026448855622965758/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/unemployed-ttt-grads-take-bar-then-what.html#comment-form' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/4026448855622965758'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/4026448855622965758'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/unemployed-ttt-grads-take-bar-then-what.html' title='Unemployed TTT grads take the bar, then what?'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-3971455189545388436</id><published>2010-07-26T21:36:00.006-03:00</published><updated>2010-07-26T22:05:13.343-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prospective law students'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='top-law-schools.com'/><title type='text'>The textbook and supplement scam</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TE4ugGfhn5I/AAAAAAAAABU/7vbVolVVGe4/s1600/1144152067_b2ae7827d1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TE4ugGfhn5I/AAAAAAAAABU/7vbVolVVGe4/s320/1144152067_b2ae7827d1.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5498383324099485586" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today’s dose of "journalism" over at the NYT today gives us &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2010/07/25/the-real-cost-of-college-textbooks"&gt;this &lt;/a&gt;banal discussion about the sky-high price of college textbooks. Whatever the outrageous cost of these bundles of paper is in undergrad, it's amplified in law school. Anyone who has ever taken a law school class knows that textbooks and associated “recommended” study aids will run a poor student far more than undergraduate texts. My primary beef today is not with the cost of books for actual classes, although that is indeed highway robbery. The Times discussion left my mind to wander to the world of prelaw books, study aids, and other overpriced paperback manuals that claim to offer 0Ls the “inside track” to success in law school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apart from the schools themselves, who make out like bandits thanks to jacked-up tuition, there is an entirely separate bloated, fattened leech that feeds off of the law school scam. The law school “support industry,” or as some bloggers have dubbed it, the law school industrial complex, rakes in over $3 billion a year from hapless law lemmings. From publishers selling pricey, largely useless hornbooks or commercial outlines, to manufacturers of equally silly flashcards and other “study aids,” to bar prep and everything in between, these miserable creatures gorge themselves on the blood of 0Ls before they ever set foot in school. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It all starts long before a prospective 0L is even sure they’ll make it to law school. The LSAT prep industry charges students thousands of dollars for courses and books designed to boost dismally-low scores. In this economy, such scores ought to simply preclude many students from going to law school, but these vultures swoop in with their expensive paperback books and promise entry to a whole host of TTTs for the low, low price of a few grand. What is there for a future TTT student to worry about, if they’ll be making six figures upon graduation? Even those students with relatively decent scores often drop a couple hundred dollars on do-it-yourself LSAT prep guides. This is the first of many, many thousands that these students will be “investing in their futures.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once a lemming has been accepted to a presTTTigious institution, they will naturally want to start preparing in advance for the upcoming academic crucible. Luckily, the law school support industry is there again with a whole host of materials that will give students a look at the “reality” of law school. The publishers and marketers of these useless books have really done a great job of trumpeting their necessity to clueless 0Ls. They’re not casebooks, they’re not really study aids, and they honestly have very little to do with anything students will find themselves doing once classes begin. Due to the groupthink that zero-lemmings suffer from (particularly those on prelaw message boards), several popular titles are constantly bandied about in the desperate attempt to get a leg up on the competition once 1L classes begin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some perennial favorites are &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Law School Confidential&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Planet Law School&lt;/span&gt;. 0Ls on message boards like to tout the absolute necessity of buying &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Guerrilla Tactics for Getting the Legal Job of Your Dreams&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Getting to Maybe&lt;/span&gt;, and dozens of other related books that “all well-prepared students” are supposed to have read before their first day of classes. These dandy paperbacks offer very little in the way of useful information, probably because &lt;a href="http://shillingmesoftly.blogspot.com/2010/06/guerilla-tactics-for-getting-legal-job.html"&gt;many are written by people who never went to law school&lt;/a&gt;.  They will, however, do a good job of spooking the reader into buying even more preparatory material. &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Planet Law School&lt;/span&gt; in particular, apart from being hopelessly dense and poorly-written, begins most chapters with pages-long lists of “recommended” supplements that would run a student thousands more dollars were they to purchase every one, to say nothing of the hours that would be required to actually read all of them. The law school scam publishing industry tries to sink its teeth into younglings before they even send in their first seat deposit to their local toilet of law, and the ride doesn’t let up until after the last cent of bar review materials are paid for.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Assuming the lemming hasn’t been scared away yet, and has taken the advice of these law school support industry shills, he arrives at school several thousand dollars lighter and with his brain crammed full of useless information that will have little to no relevance in 1L classes. The professors will read off the assigned textbooks (at least $100/pop new) as well as several “recommended” hornbooks, which can be had for $40-50 apiece at the student bookstore. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, there is certainly the “used book market” reply to these outrageous prices. That’s the route I always took, whenever possible. Because there are so many goddamn law students, even used versions of the current editions of all the books will run about 50-75% of their list price. Students would actually be well served by looking for the previous edition of the casebook, which can usually be had for a couple bucks and contains 95% of the same material. Chances are that your professors will spend little to no time talking about the newest developments in whatever area of law you’re studying, and will focus on the long-established material and rules. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Naturally, one can do perfectly well in law school with some old textbooks, some borrowed outlines, and any other bargain-bin supplements they may need. This is not the line law schools, the law school support industry, or any other shills will feed students. The particularly heinous aspect of the law school industrial complex is that they will attempt to heap ream after ream of utterly useless, confusing, and unnecessary material on 0Ls. Hustlers trying to push marginally-useful books and preparatory material on prospective students is not a situation unique to the law school industry. Indeed, it usually starts in high school when SAT/ACT prep books are pushed on panicked 16-year-olds. However, the law being the noble and prestigious profession that it is, publishers are happy to boost the prices of their law materials to reflect this perception.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of the "cheaper" alternatives to buying everything the law schools and their cronies tell you are beside the point. The smartest prospective students will look at all of the ancillary costs associated with law school, and realize that the "cheapest" alternative is not to go at all.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-3971455189545388436?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/3971455189545388436/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/textbook-and-supplement-scam.html#comment-form' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/3971455189545388436'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/3971455189545388436'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/textbook-and-supplement-scam.html' title='The textbook and supplement scam'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TE4ugGfhn5I/AAAAAAAAABU/7vbVolVVGe4/s72-c/1144152067_b2ae7827d1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-4111364046573502436</id><published>2010-07-16T16:25:00.004-03:00</published><updated>2010-07-16T16:50:21.050-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='career services'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='student loans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='advice'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prospective law students'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='3Ls'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dropping out'/><title type='text'>Carrot on a stick for 3Ls</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TECy6deqiEI/AAAAAAAAABM/1qIYnicBp04/s1600/carrot-dangle.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 205px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TECy6deqiEI/AAAAAAAAABM/1qIYnicBp04/s320/carrot-dangle.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5494588262807406658" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With yet another horrendous academic year approaching, there are many jobless 3Ls wandering the world in a shellshocked state. The few who landed gainful, paid employment for this summer are scrambling and praying they are one of the elect who will snag an offer. Many more are volunteering at places that are glad to take their free work, but that will never consider offering them a real, paying job, even if they had the funding. It’s a grand feeling, paying for “work clothes,” gas, parking, and lunches just to work in a back room at some shitty government office that doesn’t care about you and is just glad to cut down their workload. It’s doubly fun when your school offers to charge students tuition for these unpaid internships. Apart from these privileged pay-to-work students, maybe some lucked out and are doing 10 hours of research for a professor every week. In any case, 3Ls must be looking forward to the coming semester with dread. 3L OCI doesn’t exist, and those who didn’t snag one of the few remaining “real” jobs this past summer are out of luck. After this summer, those who don’t do the prudent thing and &lt;a href="http://esqnever.blogspot.com/2010/06/psa-rising-3ls-cut-your-losses.html"&gt;drop out&lt;/a&gt; will have to double-down and pay for the bar before they have a shot at applying for jobs after graduation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The memories of the unemployed class of 2010 are still fresh, and all signs point to things being at least as bad for the class of 2011. Given this dark, ominous, looming storm cloud of doom that hangs over 3Ls, it’s perfectly natural for them to despair. Yet if one were to trek over to a typical career “services” office at your local law school, they would be forgiven for thinking that everything is bright and sunny in the hiring market. With more than half of their classes full of unemployed and increasingly angry students, administrators are scrambling to whip up a fresh batch of lies and tall tales from their best shit-tainted recipes. At the risk of losing out on 30-50k per student if they see the light and drop out, the schools are pulling out all the stops in order to delude as many 3Ls into thinking they can still find work in the legal world. Let's take a look at some of the most tried and and (un)true stories that career services charlatans use to bait desperate 3Ls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Clerkships!&lt;/span&gt; They’ll say. &lt;br /&gt;Even in the best of times, most federal judges want top 10-20% and law review, and they recruit from top schools. Don’t believe me? Do an OSCAR search with a filter that will show judges who “prefer” YOUR credentials, and see what comes up. There will be a few who “prefer” top 20%, but where does that leave the other 80% of the class? Never mind the fact that federal clerkships have always been the last resort for T14 grads who missed out on biglaw, and the application process is going to be flooded by thousands of extra first tier students who were deferred, no-offered, or just came up short at OCI. If you're one of the many T1 students with law review credentials and a presumably plum position in your class rank, you might as well go for it. I certainly know a lot of 3Ls who are on law review that didn't get any job for this summer, so they'll probably be in the clerk pipeline. Along with thousands and thousands of others. Not in the top 20% of your class, on law review, at a T1 school? Yeah, me neither. Like most legal job searches, those who apply for clerkships are taking a bucketful of darts and chucking it at the wall. For a lucky, select (and T-14-credentialed) few, one of those darts just might stick. Unfortunately, just not for the majority of hopeless 3Ls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;State court clerkships!&lt;/span&gt; Great, if you can get them. Most of the most populous states are under severe budget constraints and a hiring freeze. Elsewhere, they are deciding to rearrange folks and make do with less, permanently. “Target your job search to unconventional locales and places you might not have thought of. The experience may prove rewarding.” Gee, thanks, I’m sure no one else has thought of that. In smaller/less populous states, clerkships are often at-will and law clerks are often “lifers” who have made a career out of their work, and stay on year after year at the behest of a judge. If you luck out and find a state that is still hiring enough clerks right out of school, don’t worry about the competition from thousands of other desperate law grads, many of them from T-14 schools that are tantalizing these backwater judges with their credentials for the first time. Depending on how low you sink, if you pull a gig like traffic court clerk, you will enjoy lateraling to Wal-Mart after your time is up. Assuming everything goes your way, congratulations. After completing your one or two year stint as a clerk, you’ll be back on the street. Hope you saved your $40,000 salary for that time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Join the JAG! Serve your country!&lt;/span&gt; This is also misguided advice for the great majority of people, and is becoming a favorite of career services shills in this bad economy. They even have a cheesy TV show and maybe a Kurt Russell movie to refer people who have never heard of JAG to. The general consensus of JAGs that I've spoken to is that this program was surprisingly selective even before the recession (like single digits). Since the recession decimated the legal industry, applications to JAG have soared and pushed the selection rate as low as 1% for some branches and boards, with most people having to sit for two or three rounds of selection boards before getting seriously considered. (For aspiring JAGs, that will push your job search out 12-18 months.) A JAG in one branch of the service told me applications were up 600% for last year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This seems a particularly silly option to be throwing out to law students, who as a whole are known to be bookish, pasty, and often not in prime physical condition. I’m extremely supportive of anyone who can hack the military and do their very-necessary job, but having spent years around law students, I can say that the majority of them probably aren’t cut out for it. Especially at a “top” law school, most students came with lofty dreams of legal employment and “the good life,” not waking up every morning at 4:30 for a PT run. There are some good stories floating around the internet of hapless, recession-motivated law students botching JAG interviews. Long story short, if you don’t look and act the part for military service, you’re at a distinct disadvantage.  Perhaps I’m wrong, and thousands more hopeless law students will heed career services and turn up for JAG boards. If so, I’m sure it will be even more of a clusterfuck and end up crushing their dreams even more. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;3L OCI!&lt;/span&gt; This is a golden unicorn that shits rainbows if there ever was one. No one is going to hire you from 3L OCI, because it quite frankly is an urban legend. Does your school even &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;HAVE &lt;/span&gt;3L OCI? Better check on that, and make sure it’s not just a resume collect or a few token firms coming through to interview only candidates eligible for the patent bar (i.e. not you). NALP has noted that, before the crash, big firms picked up a paltry, single-digit percentage number of 3Ls anyway. Now, your chances of getting a decent firm job through 3L OCI are, for all intents and purposes, nonexistent. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What does that leave us with? Flooding shitlaw firms with resumes in those panic-filled few months before graduation? Heaven forbid you’re among the 70% of your classmates who will graduate without a job. Then, your employment prospects REALLY dry up, and if you want to continue playing the game, you’ve got to come up with a few thousand bucks for bar review. “But I can’t get an attorney job and keep applying after I’ve graduated if I’m not barred!” Isn’t that an amazing coincidence? Just as soon as you graduated after paying at least $30,000 a year for school, you need to keep paying thousands of dollars just to stay in the game, which you have an extremely low probability of winning anyway, at this point. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Soon, it's May 2011 and here we are graduating another class from a first tier toilet, 2/3 of whom have NO JOB in ANY field. That sure was exhausting. I’m glad the deans gave themselves a raise this year (not too dramatic, though, it’s a recession). Maybe one of those unemployed recent grads…the ones who aren’t working in the career services office or the library, part-time for $10/hour, can wax the dean’s boat this summer? That definitely counts as EMPLOYED for the school’s reporting to US News. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Esq Never’s advice to 3Ls rings true: drop out. For a majority, the job search will be long, hard, and tens of thousands will eventually have to find employment outside of the law that never required a J.D. Save a year’s worth of tuition, your bar expenses, and avoid the J.D. stain on your resume. If you can’t bear to sacrifice the already-sunken costs of time and money you’ve put into your degree, impress upon some rich uncle the need to put up your tuition. Your family might panic if they think your J.D. dreams are in danger of vanishing, and that sense of desperation just might work in your favor. Other than that, I dunno? Sell a kidney, start gambling hard? There’s got to be some way to come up with the cash if you’re that desperate to stay in law school. If you ask me, seeing your student loan balance a good $30k lower and not wasting another year of your life, only to emerge in an indefinite unemployment purgatory, is reward enough.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-4111364046573502436?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/4111364046573502436/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/carrot-on-stick-for-3ls.html#comment-form' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/4111364046573502436'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/4111364046573502436'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/carrot-on-stick-for-3ls.html' title='Carrot on a stick for 3Ls'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TECy6deqiEI/AAAAAAAAABM/1qIYnicBp04/s72-c/carrot-dangle.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-6421608284065441607</id><published>2010-07-10T20:37:00.006-03:00</published><updated>2010-07-10T22:04:03.063-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prospective law students'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='0Ls'/><title type='text'>Fo0Ls Rush In. (Why, God, Why?!?)</title><content type='html'>From &lt;a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202463410108&amp;Hope_drives_rise_in_law_school_applications"&gt;The National Law Journal&lt;/a&gt;, we have another piece about naïve, hubristic 0Ls. &lt;br /&gt;Scambloggers have noted with dismay that law school applications are on the rise even as the legal profession continues to contract. With prospects for recent and future grads so horrible, and the word finally getting out through some mainstream media sources, one would hope that it had some deterrent effect. No need to worry, though, because "the applicant pool also appeared a bit savvier than its predecessors, as far as reading the fine print, admissions deans reported. Admissions offices fielded more questions than ever about job placement rates, career services and finances." Thank God, these kids are well-prepared and full of information fed to them by admissions deans. I was really worried there for a moment. If only the schools didn’t send out their best shills and respond to all of these queries by blowing smoke and lying their asses off about these very statistics, these kids might stand a fighting chance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet even an industry cheerleader publication like the NLJ can't hide its disbelief about the naivete of prospective students. I especially like the lead photo montage of 0Ls with the caption "WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?" The article then goes on to talk about how law school applications are booming, deans are hungry for students, and 0Ls are ignoring the blood-curdling screams and foul stench of death emanating from the schools they are touring during admitted students day. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The piece also cited what is probably my favorite statistic from all of this law school meltdown mayhem: "In a recent survey of 330 prelaw student by Kaplan Test Prep, 52% felt "very confident" that they would land a legal job after graduation, although only 16% felt confident that most of their fellow graduates would be as successful." Not to minimize the hubris of 52% of these 0Ls, but how about the 48% who presumably do NOT feel "very confident" about landing a legal job? If about half of these prospective 0Ls aren't confident they will get a legal job, what possesses them to plunk down six figures for the degree?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What really boggles the mind about these articles is that they always manage to find some nontraditional student who already has a decent job, or someone who actually worked in a law firm, to interview. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Arline Laurer is among those banking on a turnaround during the next three years. The 21-year-old from a small town outside Rochester, N.Y., plans to begin studies at the University of Toledo College of Law next month. An internship at the Kings County district attorney's office in Brooklyn, N.Y., while an undergraduate at St. John's University solidified her ambitions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I've been watching [the legal job market] pretty closely — especially in the past year, as I get closer to going to law school," she said. "I'm obviously about to take on a lot of debt. I'm hoping by the time I get out of law school the job climate will be better."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One would think that, having worked in local government, where hiring freezes and working for free are the norm, this 0L would be skeptical of her chances of emerging as a salaried lawyer. The office she worked in was being staffed by UNDERGRAD interns, and certainly a host of unemployed volunteer law grads. When she looked around at all of the unpaid co-workers, did that not have any effect? Then there are the people who are pushing 30 and are ready to throw in the towel on their current career. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Law school has always in the back of Minnesota native Emily Johns' mind, but she gave it a more serious look during the past two years as her employer, the Minneapolis Star Tribune, declared bankruptcy and offered buyouts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"First and foremost, I'm doing this because I want to be a lawyer, not because I'm running away from these scary times in the journalism industry," said Johns, 28, an education reporter who will soon be a 1L at the University of Minnesota Law School. "But it did make me think seriously about my Plan B. I think I'm doing to right thing. There's no way you can know for sure."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After suffering through the journalism bloodbath, and being lucky enough to have a job as a reporter in that dying industry, I would be a little more skeptical before vaulting into another risky, dying profession. Especially if it had the potential to cost me $100,000 or more before ever working a day as a lawyer. Also, if she always wanted to be a lawyer, isn't that what she would have pursued after school, instead of journalism? Let's make up our minds, 0Ls. Which horrible, dying career field do you want to meet your doom in?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was glad to see the scambloggers' old pal Professor Tamanaha make an appearance and offer this bold-faced warning (which no one will heed): &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The tipping point — when the cost of law school will dissuade those are not seriously interested in practicing law — is on the horizon, Tamanaha said. He cautioned, however, that he has made that prediction before. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"In 15 years of teaching, I've known a lot of students who came here because they didn't know what they wanted to do," Tamanaha said. "A lot of this is about cyclical irrational decision-making. It's based on a very human trait, which is overoptimism. &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;For the people who have always wanted to be a lawyer, they should go to law school. For anyone else, it's not a good decision.&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There you have it, kids, straight from the professor's mouth. How many of us really, truly, "always wanted to be a lawyer." Not the majority of current or prospective students, who are mostly here because they (erroneously) believed that lawyers make decent money. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The piece ends with four short profiles of prospective students. Talk about ripe material. We’ve got lifelong lovers of the law, a nontrad, and plenty of willful ignorance. There's a theater major and future victim of Drake. There are people who turned down actual paying jobs, and lots of dreams of entering arcane, impossible-to-crack-into, or nonexistent practice areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I was surprised by how many people were planning on going to law school," said Klatt, 22, who just graduated from St. Ambrose University in Davenport, Iowa, with a degree in ¬theater and English. "It may be because of the economy. Right now, in the job market, there's nothing."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Klatt isn't using law school as a delay tactic, even if some of her classmates are. She has wanted to be an attorney since childhood and saw no point in putting off her career ambitions because of turmoil in the legal industry. After months of research, she settled on &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Drake University Law School&lt;/span&gt; in Des Moines, Iowa — a school she considers vastly underrated. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She hopes to become an advocate for the disabled, partly because she has watched people take advantage of her handicapped brother and other vulnerable people. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although Klatt is confident that law school is the right choice for her, the price tag of a J.D. still leaves her a little queasy. Drake offered a scholarship that will cover half her tuition, but Klatt still expects to take out about $90,000 in loans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I really, really hope Ms. Klatt finds her way over to &lt;a href="http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2010/05/on-cold-seat-third-tier-drake.html"&gt;Third Tier Reality&lt;/a&gt; before sending in that first semester tuition deposit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there are the folks who claim they're aware of "how bad things are," but are steaming full speed ahead anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Payne, 25, insists she's not looking at the legal world through rose-colored glasses. She has friends who have been laid off from paralegal and clerk jobs with law firms, and is well aware that the industry is unstable right now. Even so, she would like to land a job at a law firm and perhaps specialize in the legal issues surrounding social media — an area she manages for a Washington nonprofit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So she's presumably witnessed your friends suffering layoffs and firms cutting back, and that the industry is "unstable." Better still, it appears Ms. Payne has a paying job with a nonprofit. How many 25-year-olds can say that, in this economy? How many liberal arts majors dreamed of working for a nonprofit, only to be on the part-time roster at Walgreens? Count your blessings, Ms. Payne. But you've got nothing on&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Yazmin Wadia, who acknowledges that she hasn't been paying as much attention to the legal job market as she probably should, given that she is poised to start law school next month.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Granted, the 20-year-old has had plenty of other things occupying her time and mind — not the least of which was completing her undergraduate degree in political science and history in just three years at Arizona State University.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wadia turned down a paying job at The Public Forum Institute, a nonprofit in Washington that promotes public discourse, in part because she felt that she wasn't yet ready to join the 9-to-5 workday grind. Instead, she plans to attend Willamette University College of Law in Salem, Ore., which lured her with a scholarship and a strong public interest law program. She hopes to parlay a law degree into a job with a large nonprofit in Washington such as the American Civil Liberties Union, the Anti-Defamation League or Amnesty International. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While she hasn't done as much research as she knows she should into the job prospects for new law graduates, she understands that she'll face stiff competition to land her dream legal gig. "It definitely does scare me, knowing that you're competing in the job market with Ivy League graduates from Harvard and Yale," she said. "But it doesn't hurt to try. What's the worst that can happen?"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's the worst that can happen? It'll only cost an inquisitive 0L three years and $100,000 to find out!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-6421608284065441607?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/6421608284065441607/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/fo0ls-rush-in-why-god-why.html#comment-form' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6421608284065441607'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6421608284065441607'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/fo0ls-rush-in-why-god-why.html' title='Fo0Ls Rush In. (Why, God, Why?!?)'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-778744112201166065</id><published>2010-07-05T18:48:00.006-03:00</published><updated>2010-07-05T19:09:54.351-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='advice'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prospective law students'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TTT'/><title type='text'>The Battle for a 0L’s Soul</title><content type='html'>Over at the Minnesota Lawyer blog, they actually do a good job of regularly posting articles about the horrible prospects for J.D.s . Thus, I was a little disappointed to see a &lt;a href="http://minnlawyer.com/minnlawyerblog/2010/06/29/hamline-or-william-mitchell-incoming-1l-wants-to-know/"&gt;post seeking advice&lt;/a&gt; for a prospective student who wants to decide which local TTT to attend. The result is an ongoing comment war between supporters of TTTT Hamline and TTT William Mitchell. The lost soul who originally asked the question let it be known that she is 100% set on going to law school, so we should not try and dissuade her. She merely wants to hear about the relative merits of these trash bins when making her decision. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a Minnesotan myself, I feel particularly well-suited to add my two cents on the matter. I applied to William MiTTTchell and St. TTThomas (but not fourth-tier Hambone) when I was a wayward 0L, although I thankfully wised up and made it into the presTTTigious UniversiTTTY of MinnesoTTTa, home to the 30%-employed Class of 2010. St. Thomas actually had the decency to offer me some big bucks, but it wasn’t enough to entice me. Mitchell had the audacity to expect me to pay sticker price to attend their spittoon of law. (The U came through with a scholarship after all. Not like it made any difference in the end.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nando over at Third Tier Reality has already done a &lt;a href="http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2010/04/fourth-tier-waste-site-hamline.html"&gt;great expose&lt;/a&gt; of the two &lt;a href="http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2010/04/stinking-pile-of-rot-william-mitchell.html"&gt;dung heaps&lt;/a&gt; of law that our poor 0L is considering, so I won’t go into the details of how much they will pillage your finances and/or soul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Minneapolis-St. Paul is a funny legal market. With four law schools in this mid-size city, 1,000 new J.D.s are defecated out into this oversaturated field every year. Minnesota as a state has one of the highest lawyer per capita ratios in the Union, despite it being pretty small population-wise. When I was considering law school, the general consensus was “get into the U of M or else your life will become a living hell.” Well, having gone to the U of M, and my life being even worse than I ever imagined, I don’t know how helpful this advice was. I can’t imagine how much worse things are coming out of the local TTTs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a market when T-14 graduates are getting screwed left and right, why would anyone seriously consider one of these dumps? I have to chalk it up to inability to follow the news, and/or "it won't happen to me" syndrome. In better times, Mitchell grads would have had a reasonable shot at eking out an existence in shitlaw or solo practice, but plenty of them still slipped through the woodwork. Hamline did even worse…it’s most prestigious grad is arguably a former local TV news anchor. In this market, students from the “best” school in town, which is generally agreed to be head-and-neck above its peers, aren’t finding jobs. How can any lawyer or law student in good conscience recommend a third-tier-toilet to a clueless 0L, who is looking for help? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The advice given to this 0L essentially devolved into a war between TTT cheerleaders who cite the “great practical experience” these toilets offer, versus disillusioned lawyers and graduates of these schools who are urging this 0L to reconsider.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The shills: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Mitchell is known for its practical skills courses and clinics.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Mitchell has more alumni, which can be good for networking.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Hamline was a very good experience for me. I also had a lot of professors who were practicing or had recently practiced and were able to make legal issues come alive.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Making the choice between Mitchell and Hamline is simple: Mitchell is the better choice. I know many big-firm lawyers (and people in the government, and people at non-profits, etc.) who went to Mitchell and loved it. Mitchell is a fine school with solid legal education. And their career services people work very hard indeed.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A nugget of honesty: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“But please reconsider. Mitchell and Hamline are both terrible choices for the vast majority of students. Almost everybody after graduation finds that their job choices are very limited, their career trajectories are flat, and they can’t get the kind of experience they want. . The very best people in any school will do fine. Chances are, I’m sorry to say, that you will not be in the top of the class.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best place for this wayward 0L to look is at actual recent grads of the schools:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“I’m a 2009 Hamline grad. I graduated with honors. I’m still unemployed. There’s a data point for you.&lt;br /&gt;Good luck!&lt;br /&gt;PS — it’s not too late to go to medical school.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; “Do not go to law school. The legal market is terrible, and it is going to keep getting worse: law classes are getting larger and larger. Top 1/4 students from UMN Law are having trouble finding jobs. You will be eaten alive unless those schools are offering you full-ride scholarships.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The legal market is terrible right now, no real news flash there. But if you are going to choose a MN school either go to the U and make sure to place in the top 25%, or go to Mitchell on a scholarship and place in the top 10%. If you can’t do that, don’t go to law school in the Twin Cities. And I’m not just saying that with regards to placing at a large firm, I’m saying that about having a chance at getting a legal job period when you graduate. &lt;br /&gt;Hamline should never be an option.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which side will come away with the victory? Will the law school shills claim another bloody scalp from a hapless 0L? Will this woefully uninformed prospective student find her way to the scambloggers and others dedicated to exposing the law school scam? Classes are two months away, and the oilcan deans are busy making sure every seat will be filled with a warm body. Godspeed, "Jackie" the 0L, and may you see the light and run far, far away from law school.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-778744112201166065?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/778744112201166065/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/battle-for-0ls-soul.html#comment-form' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/778744112201166065'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/778744112201166065'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/07/battle-for-0ls-soul.html' title='The Battle for a 0L’s Soul'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-5421008506030188657</id><published>2010-06-30T12:14:00.007-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-30T12:29:23.140-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='advice'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prospective law students'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='0Ls'/><title type='text'>The Five People You Should Not Listen to When Considering Law School.</title><content type='html'>Ah, the good old summertime! It was only a few short years ago that I spent these few glorious months boning up on law school and preparing myself for the academic crucible of first semester 1L year. Looking back, I was an idiot, but I certainly didn’t know any better. A big problem for me was a lack of accurate, meaningful advice about just what the decision to go to law school entailed. Scambloggers and other disaffected lawyers have been trying to get through to prospective students that law is a shitty career, law schools lie through their teeth to get you in the door, and that legal hiring has been a bloodbath for some time. Sure, some of the class of 2013 will get jobs. A lot—and we’re talking many thousands—won’t get legal jobs at all. Maybe half of them will get temporary jobs or jobs they hate, just to pay the loans. In any case, the realities upon graduation will be a far cry from whatever expectations most people had during that last, glorious summer before they entered the abyss.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I received a lot of stupid advice from a lot of uninformed people, although I didn’t know it at the time. When you’re a wet-behind-the-ears 20something, it’s hard to ignore and disbelieve practically everyone who surrounds you and has guided you. Ultimately, the decision to go to law school is your own, as it was for me. However, when weighing this extremely perilous decision, there are a lot of people whose advice you should not heed. Thus, I give you, The Five People You Should Not Listen to When Considering Law School.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Your parents and relatives.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your non-lawyer relations are, in a word, stupid. Every parent, even those who could never be described as “helicopter parents” likes the idea of their kid being a lawyer. Outside of born-to-the-purple sons of billionaires, a respectable professional job like doctor or lawyer represents the height of middle-class achievement for most people. Unless your family knows struggling lawyers, they will encourage you to go, and also resist your attempts to reconsider. Fight them. They will probably give you a few examples of a few acquaintances of theirs, fellow boomers who have built a successful small practice of some sort. You will probably get a line about how, “My friend Barb went to law school, and now she doesn’t even work in the law and makes $_ _, _ _ _ doing some bullshit.” Ignore this as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your family is well meaning. They want you to succeed and are using their limited knowledge and susceptibility to occupational prestige to try and encourage you the best way they know how. The disconnect between your average layperson’s idea of lawyer salaries and the reality is huge. Unless you have lawyers in your immediate family, you’re not going to get the cold, hard facts. Many people trust and rely on their families, even long after leaving the nest. There’s nothing wrong with that… they’ve always looked out for you, and are still trying to, albeit misguidedly. This is one area where you must not let their good intentions get the best of you or color your decision to go to law school. It’s easy to feel complacent and that you’ve made the right choice when you’ve got a bunch of people cheering for you. Don’t fall into this trap. If need be, think of how hard it will be explaining to your loving, naïve family why you are still unemployed after graduation in a few years. Your family cares about you and loves you, yes. Most of the time, however, they are not footing the bill and won’t have to grapple with the personal consequences of going to law school for the rest of their lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;2. Your friends.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your 20something friends are probably even stupider than your parents. If they didn’t run to graduate school right after undergrad, most of them emerged from college and found some shitty job that doesn’t pay enough and that doesn’t require a degree of any kind. Because of this, they are all itching to get into grad, med, or law school in hopes of finding an actual job. Most haven’t yet started the journey, but they still entertain ideas of law school being a great way to advance in life, get a real job, and eventually make some real money. Don’t listen to their admiration or encouragement. You’ll get lines like, “It’s great that you’re going to law school and will make some money, I’m going to take the LSAT next fall!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do not fall victim to the groupthink that infects underemployed 20somethings. Everyone believes graduate education will save them, after sadly realizing that a mere bachelor’s degree could not. In fact, every single one of my friends with an undergraduate degree is either in grad school, enrolling this fall, or gearing up to go. Every last one of them, including those few who landed decent jobs as engineers or federal employees. If EVERYONE is going, how are the supposed benefits of continually-higher education supposed to materialize, when the value of the degree is so diluted? Our generation has swallowed the higher ed myth hook, line, and sinker. These aren’t the people you want to take advice from when deciding whether to gamble $100k and your future on law school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;3. Undergraduate professors or career counselors.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your undergrad professors have likely been ensconced in academia for decades and are quite insulated from the realities of the job market in general, and the legal market in particular. If you’ve ever sat through an undergrad reception where the profs can smile and share cookies with a room full of English majors whom are all soon to go off into the economic melee like lambs to the slaughter, then you know that these old duffers don’t know shit about the consequences of their enterprise. Doubly so when they are asked to write letters of recommendation to law school, or give you wise counsel on your career prospects. For every &lt;a href="http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/english-phd-calls-law-school-scam.html"&gt;honest prof&lt;/a&gt;, there are going to be 100 who are happy to write the letter and get you out of their office.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Career counselors are typically younger and more aware that law school is career suicide. They are usually a lot like you, but were lucky enough to find a position with their alma mater in which they shuttle hapless humanities graduates off to some other form of higher education. My own experience with these “counselors” is that they are woefully uninformed and unprepared to give it to you straight regarding law school. Law school is the number one escape hatch for an uncertain humanities undergrad, so they’ve dealt with hundreds if not thousands of prospective law students. Often times, they will recommend local TTTs rather than a first tier toilet because that’s where most of their confused counselees end up. By and large, these counselors are 20somethings themselves and are asleep at the wheel. It’s like how door-to-door salesmen who work on commission don’t really know or care about whatever they’re hocking...it’s the same basic concept. These people probably don’t get a direct commission for every soul they send off to law school, but they might as well. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;4. Anyone from a law school forum.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scambloggers have already covered the many, many problems with pro-law school forums like top-law-schools, Autoadmit, or Lawschooldiscussion. Long story short, these sites are full of 0L cheerleaders who have never spent an hour in law school, but will bury you in advice about how to succeed in class, how to “land biglaw,” and other fluff. Disregard all of this nonsense, as these troglodytes are unwilling to listen to reason and are all 100% positive that all 100% of them will end up in the top 10% of their class. (See the problem?) Also, if you’re wondering why you never see any cautionary tales or anti-law school rhetoric on these sites, they &lt;a href="http://shillingmesoftly.blogspot.com/2010/06/banned-in-usa-irony-of-censorship-on.html"&gt;censor &lt;/a&gt;and ban anyone who has a negative opinion about legal education, job prospects, or schools’ cooking the books on their employment and salary stats.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;5. Yourself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know what you’re thinking: I always listen to myself, I never let me down! I am the same way, and that’s in part why law school has screwed me over so much. In general, law school attracts and preys a lot of ambitious and self-confident people. I certainly had dreams of doing well for myself, getting a good job, etc. So does everyone else in your class. It may well be that between all of the ambition, hype from the media, your fellow 0Ls, and rigorously preparing yourself for school, that you’ve exaggerated the benefits of law school while ignoring its massive, gaping faults. In my case, I was under the impression that a J.D. would offer a chance to make some money, or at least find employment. Expectations have since been lowered. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conquering these expectations now will save you from a lot of headaches in the future. Take a big step back and forget everything you’ve read on USNews or TLS. Forget all of the “successful” lawyers you may have crossed paths with. Forget the idea that a comfortable salary is just three years of hard work away. Convince yourself that there will be no job for you, crushing debt, and a general sense of disillusionment with the world. It’s hard to do when you’re on a 0L high, but aim low…really low. Maybe picture taking $150,000 and betting it all on black at a roulette wheel. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once you’re comfortable with that idea, and if you still want to go to law school, I can’t stop you. There are serious benefits to assuming the worst possible outlook on your law school experience. Not only will it be realistic, in this economy, but you can’t come out saying that you expected something else. It’s like all of those times I was positive I got a C+ in a class, but really came out with an A-. If you condition yourself for the worst possible scenario, you can’t be disappointed. Let’s stress again that “worst possible scenario” is in fact “most likely scenario” for the majority of law grads. Get yourself thinking like this, and you might reassess the entire decision to go to law school. If not, you’ll at least have properly conditioned yourself for three years and $100,000 lost, as well as a long bout of shameful un/underemployment upon graduation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And there you have it, folks. Five of the most common people you’re likely to hear from regarding your decision to go to law school. All of them completely clueless, delusional, or unwilling to tell it like it is.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-5421008506030188657?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/5421008506030188657/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/five-people-you-should-not-listen-to.html#comment-form' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5421008506030188657'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5421008506030188657'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/five-people-you-should-not-listen-to.html' title='The Five People You Should Not Listen to When Considering Law School.'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-1833139472783207877</id><published>2010-06-28T18:18:00.003-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-28T18:28:07.611-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='student loans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><title type='text'>An English PhD calls law school a scam</title><content type='html'>From the world of the liberal arts, &lt;a href="http://www.erinoconnor.org/archives/2010/06/law_school_scam.html"&gt;we have&lt;/a&gt; another outsider who can take one look at law school and tell it like it is. The author notes that during her teaching career, she counseled many an English major on their prospects and wrote plenty of letters of recommendation for aspiring J.D.s.  For someone who is a creature of the higher education establishment, and saw many of her own students off to law school, I have to admire her ability to be blunt regarding graduate-level education.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Grad school in the humanities is a scam. There are simply no jobs, tenure is disappearing, the culture of the academic humanities is pathological, and the sort of academic life grad students hope to acquire is ceasing to exist.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No real news here. As someone who flirted with going to grad school in the humanities, I was told much of the same things. Fellow scambloggers have long since noted the similarities between the (&lt;a href="http://childrenofdebt.blogspot.com/2010/06/gambling-phd.html"&gt;dismal&lt;/a&gt;) outlook for M.A./PhD holders and J.D.s. Now, when even law schools that might have been able to place a fair number of students are revealed to be first tier toilets, law school is more like grad school than ever. A certain, select number of students will still land their respective profession’s most coveted jobs. They will almost all come from the very best institutions and be the cream of the academic crop. For J.D.s from lesser schools and outside the top quartiles of the class, their future is looking more and more like that of the typical M.A. or PhD. Except worse. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“[L]aw school is turning into grad school, only with debt. At least if you are getting a PhD in English, you can do it for free. You might live on a shoestring (I lived on $10,000/year when I was getting my PhD during the early 1990s), but your tuition is covered and you don't graduate six figures under.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The author ends by recommending that students not go to grad school OR law school. This is someone who’s done their own trial by fire, going the grad school route and being a professor for years. For every one of these honest, no-B.S. professors, there are thousands more who play accessory to the highway robbery that is the higher ed scam. This is coming from a PhD in English! I think everyone can agree that humanities PhDs are much more of a scam than a J.D., but here we have one such PhD telling us that no, sorry, we J.D.s have it much worse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Will law professors act to clean up law schools' act? They should. But if the example of the academic humanities is any indicator, they won't. Lowering costs and being honest about expectations would come out of their pockets and their comforts--and that would be just too much.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m glad to see that more and more informed observers of legal education are wising up to the scam. We need more brave souls like Erin O’Connor and Professor Tamanaha who can speak up about the scam and try and warn off would-be victims. To the law school apologists and prospective law students, it’s not just “a few bitter bloggers” who are publicizing the law school scam.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-1833139472783207877?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/1833139472783207877/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/english-phd-calls-law-school-scam.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/1833139472783207877'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/1833139472783207877'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/english-phd-calls-law-school-scam.html' title='An English PhD calls law school a scam'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-278933943673041567</id><published>2010-06-25T11:11:00.008-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-26T18:00:12.532-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cooking the books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SMU Dedman'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><title type='text'>First Tier Toilet Apologists</title><content type='html'>The NYT mustered half an ounce of courage and published a &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/25/opinion/l25law.html?hpw"&gt;letter &lt;/a&gt;with a sprinkling of law school criticism in it. This tepid letter to the editor is a smidgen more critical of the law school scam than the Times' own article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Re “In Law Schools, Grades Go Up, Just Like That” (front page, June 22):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Raising the mandatory grading average is a disingenuous measure taken by law schools to appease students, many of whom are growing increasingly unhappy with the fact that they are graduating with crushing debt and meager job prospects.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Raising grades does no more than slapping a Band-Aid on the sliced jugular of the grim employment situation. Class rank relative to other students remains the same, and employers need only ask for a student’s class percentile to circumvent grade inflation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's an admission that employment sucks, and schools are doing nothing about it. There's even a scamblog-worthy line about the "sliced jugular of the grim employment situation." Bravo, letter writer! Now that we've thrown that out there, it's time to hit them hard!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If schools are sincerely concerned about the well-being of their graduates, perhaps they should devote more of their resources to assisting students with finding clerkships and jobs, and even subsidizing them, as mine does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the very least, schools should address other factors within their control, like limiting the number of students enrolled so they can actually expect to find employment, or reining in skyrocketing law school tuition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nathan Rogers&lt;br /&gt;Dallas, June 22, 2010&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The writer attends SMU Dedman School of Law.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had high hopes for this letter until we got to "schools should subsidize their students, like mine does." Would that I could sell my soul for a $3500 stipend, fend off unemployment for six months, and allow the school to count me as "employed." Other than that, the letter made some good points...apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's not encourage this kind of gamesmanship, Mr. Rogers! As long as there is support for half-baked schemes like &lt;a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2010/05/smu-will-pay-you-to-hire-their-graduates"&gt;SMU Dedman's "Test Drive" program&lt;/a&gt;, schools will continue to use such trickery to cook the books and deceive unwitting 0Ls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SMU Dedman...is that supposed to refer to your employment prospects as a graduate? Dedman...Dead Man Walking? The test drive program is $3500, or thirty pieces of silver, that the school will throw its unemployed grads to keep them busy and out of the "unemployed" category. For a school that reports a whopping 97% of its class of 2009 as employed, they've got to keep those fake numbers up for the class of 2010. This program is not about helping students, it's about boosting SMU Dead-man's US News ranking and pulling a fast one on prospective students. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despite &lt;a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/05/18/test-drive-law-school-paying-firms-to-hire-graduates/"&gt;what the dean claims&lt;/a&gt;, when the employment survey comes out, we can expect to see these "test driven" students listed as "employed." Really, it's a good deal for DeadMan...$3500 a head seems a small price to pay if you can put up good fake employment data because of it. For every student that they shell out 3500 bucks for now, they can be sure to get more suckers in the door come fall, paying a cool $38,406 a year &lt;a href="http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/items/03150"&gt;in tuition alone&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's &lt;a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/05/18/test-drive-law-school-paying-firms-to-hire-graduates/tab/comments/"&gt;see &lt;/a&gt;where a "test drive" will land alums of this presTTTigious institution!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt; *  2:59 pm May 18, 2010&lt;br /&gt;    * Anonymous wrote:&lt;br /&gt;I graduated from SMU in 2009 – they are disingenuous about their graduate employment statistics. I can name six peers that are employed outside the legal field and/or still looking for work. Another five are doing contract labor (i.e. document review). One of my friend’s was working at Toys-R-Us when these statistics were compiled. One was “employed” by the career services office. At least another five are working in the Barnett Shale doing door-to-door oil &amp; gas leasing and/or title checks for Chesapeake Energy’s subcontractors (along-side college drop-outs). And one that became so frustrated with career prospects that he is studying to be a pharmacist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Talk about a first-tier toilet! Mr. Rogers, don't tarnish an otherwise accurate letter to the editor about the perils of law school with a shill for the latest brand of law school scammery!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-278933943673041567?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/278933943673041567/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/grade-inflation-and-scam-part-deux.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/278933943673041567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/278933943673041567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/grade-inflation-and-scam-part-deux.html' title='First Tier Toilet Apologists'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-531170754959512597</id><published>2010-06-22T18:25:00.003-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-22T19:04:21.577-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cooking the books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><title type='text'>NYT tiptoes around law school scam</title><content type='html'>Yesterday brought another mainstream media &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/22/business/22law.html"&gt;piece &lt;/a&gt;about some of the shenanigans going on in legal education. Grade inflation is not exactly a great way to give students a leg-up in a horrible job market, especially when more and more schools are doing it. Additionally, as the article notes, employers are hip to the jive and are thus unlikely to care that a student's GPA is .333 higher.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's good to see the paper give a skeptical glance to this grade-meddling. However, the NYT dropped the ball by failing to mention the larger problems that cause schools to come up with half-assed schemes like a GPA boost. The utter lack of legal jobs and the unemployment massacre that J.D. grads are entering after school is the root cause of these limpwristed efforts to aid students. As the article notes, how much of a boon these schemes will provide is quite debatable. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In an article that casts a suspicious eye on grade inflation and efforts by schools to pay employers to "test drive" their grads, more ought to have been said about what a bloody, suicidal clusterfuck law school has become. Instead, readers are given a few lines that passively reference the boiling cauldron of excrement that is the law school scam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Once able to practically guarantee gainful employment to thousands of students every year, the schools are now fielding complaints from more and more unemployed graduates, frequently drowning in student debt.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Fielding complaints" from "more and more" (read: tens of thousands) of graduates sounds a lot like the righteous anger of the law school scambloggers and other scammed grads. Yet a mere reference to "complaints" makes the whole backlash against law school seem wholly insignificant and whiny. There is a whole lot more going on than just a few complaints being filed!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As long as mainstream media outlets temper their reporting about the problems in legal education with an overall positive assessment, casual readers (like 0Ls and their parents) are not going to get the message. They might come away with some inkling that all is not well in law school land, but will just write it off. After all, it definitely isn't going to happen to THEM! As long as the plight of the tens of thousands of scammed grads is characterized as "a few complaints," or an aberration on the road to $160k salaries, unknowing students will continue to matriculate. I'm not expecting the NYT or any other respectable paper to adopt the tone of a scambuster, but it would be nice to see them give a harder look to the problems facing law grads.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-531170754959512597?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/531170754959512597/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/nyt-tiptoes-around-law-school-scam.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/531170754959512597'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/531170754959512597'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/nyt-tiptoes-around-law-school-scam.html' title='NYT tiptoes around law school scam'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-7081125262249115690</id><published>2010-06-21T17:19:00.008-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-25T17:13:44.206-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unemployment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><title type='text'>Government work is NOT an alternative to private practice</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TB_PP2xfMSI/AAAAAAAAAA4/L7iuZ1Ijxtk/s1600/not-hiring.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TB_PP2xfMSI/AAAAAAAAAA4/L7iuZ1Ijxtk/s320/not-hiring.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5485330742468620578" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s exasperating to hear naïve 0Ls, 1Ls, and even some dumber upperclassmen, talk about public-sector work like it is still a viable option for them. They'll say how are disappointed they are that biglaw is closed, but they will just go and work for “the government” instead. They usually cite something about how the lower salaries are worth working fewer hours and devoting yourself to “more meaningful” work. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These jobs were always scarce before the recession, and they also paid crap compared to the 100 or 150 thousand dollar debt students have. For as many law students that professed their desire to work in the public sector, there were never enough of these positions for them even in the best of times. They are even more scarce now as many government and nonprofit employers have seen their budgets crater. Those that are still around aren’t paying you any more than they ever were. Only a few  schools have a worthwhile LRAP program that will make any significant dent in your debt, and they all happen to be top schools. If you go to a crap school or even a &lt;a href="http://firsttiertoilet.blogspot.com/ "&gt;first tier toilet&lt;/a&gt;, and expecting to be bailed out by your school in exchange for taking a $35,000 yearly salary from some legal aid group...it ain't going to happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To anyone who has been living under a rock lately, government isn’t exactly a boom industry when it comes to jobs for law grads. Fluff news stories like to talk about how government is one of the only sectors growing. This is true...if you are a temporary census worker, or are willing to enter at the bottom of the pay scale as a Forestry Service technician making $9/hour. There are not, however, thousands of new legal positions being created. The tens of thousands of unemployed or temporarily-employed JDs out there are not going to find full-time attorney jobs with the government. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;State and local government is much, much worse off than the feds. Several states that are home to a lot of unemployed lawyers are ready to implode for lack of funding. They aren’t exactly on a hiring boom. Many other states have severely constrained budgets and are trimming their judicial branches, county legal services, and the like. State-level judges are cautioning that this austerity, lack of funding, and lack of personnel &lt;a href="http://minnlawyerblog.com/2010/06/15/chronic-budget-deficits-are-the-courts-new-normal-maturi-says/"&gt;is going to be long term&lt;/a&gt; (read: permanent).  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No, you’re not going to be able to slide into a job as assistant city attorney or public defender with ease. As you may have noticed, every recent grad who hasn’t yet committed suicide is plastering the few remaining government jobs with resumes. There are tends of thousands of newly-minted, unemployed JDs trying to find ANY sort of paid work. Local governments are &lt;a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2010/06/district-attorney-looking-for-lawyers-free-lawyers-of-course/"&gt;taking advantage&lt;/a&gt; of this bumper crop of unemployed law students and recent graduates &lt;a href="http://blogs.findlaw.com/strategist/2009/12/will-litigate-for-food-nj-ag-takes-on-attorney-volunteers.html"&gt;by taking them on as volunteers&lt;/a&gt;, with no promise, prospect, or insinuation that they will ever get a job.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back at the federal level, there are only a tiny amount of attorney positions open. They are being filled by biglaw refugees with fancy degrees and gold-plated experience at some of the nation’s premier firms. In other words, not slack-jawed recent graduates, or TTT lawyers looking to move up onto the federal general schedule. One of my good friends, from back in the day before I lost half of my brain mass and decided to go to law school, actually works for the federal government. The Department of Justice probably has a lot of lawyers and is a good place to sample what hiring at the federal level is like. Let’s see what he says:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Even before the recession a lot of these jobs were only looking at 5% of applicants, now it's much less. No one looks at the thousands of USAjobs applicants, you need something stellar to stand out. We have a lot of solid talent from the private sector coming in, our division hired some experienced attorneys from big firms in the past year or so. All the people in my office who have degrees from places like UConn or non-Ivy schools were here long before the economy got bad. DOJ has its pick of experienced lawyers with white shoe credentials. Everyone is trying to get into the federal government because it’s more secure.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wait, where was the part about them hiring new grads or students from shitty schools? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bottom line: government work is AT LEAST as hard to get as a halfway decent private sector job, if not harder. I think all but the most delusional students outside the very top schools have given up their dreams of biglaw. Students need to start giving up their hopes of government work: local government doesn’t have the money to hire you, and the feds would prefer experienced lawyers with excellent academic credentials from top schools. Your students and grads from the T14 are also shut out of biglaw and are trickling down to take entry-level government jobs that might have considered you in the past.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What does that leave you? Bankrupting yourself starting a solo practice, or working for some schlubby shitlaw practitioner in traffic court or family law for $25k a year. There is probably some of that work to be found, but still not enough for the 45,000 law grads emerging every year. So don’t lose heart, you might still find "a job." Do write back when your prelaw dreams of legal glory clash with the realities of shitlaw.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-7081125262249115690?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/7081125262249115690/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/government-work-is-not-alternative-to.html#comment-form' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/7081125262249115690'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/7081125262249115690'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/government-work-is-not-alternative-to.html' title='Government work is NOT an alternative to private practice'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TB_PP2xfMSI/AAAAAAAAAA4/L7iuZ1Ijxtk/s72-c/not-hiring.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-6174843747463971767</id><published>2010-06-19T16:29:00.007-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-19T22:51:02.964-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unemployment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TTT'/><title type='text'>Every School is a TTT</title><content type='html'>A &lt;a href="http://www.notolawschool.com/2010/06/law-prof-notices-scam.html?showComment=1276558827527#c8097682251283804929"&gt;comment &lt;/a&gt;over on JJD’s blog caught my eye:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“As someone who attended (and did well in) a very "elite" school, I can personally assure everyone here that their employment figures are deceptive and manipulated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's not just the TTT's that are doing it. Most of the graduating class did not get decent jobs. My friends are mostly unemployed, doing part-time work with a stipend, or are trying to join the military.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve sounded this same theme on boards and comments on my fellows' blogs. It’s time we all realize: most schools are putting up TTT numbers these days. Double-digit unemployment and lack of prospects are no longer problems unique to TTTs. Okay, even I can admit that not "every" school is a TTT. But in this economy, plenty of highly-thought-of T1 schools are sending their graduates out and over a cliff. This metastasized rot has penetrated deep into the first tier, tinged the T14, and is even now lurking outside the gates of Harvard Yard. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TTTs get a lot of bad rap, and deservedly so. They ought to get a hundred times more, and then all be closed down, their facilities stripped bare and sold off to help recoup some of their victims’ tuition dollars. But as anyone at a “better” law school will tell you, things are hardly much different higher up the USNews ladder. Recently &lt;a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127041058"&gt;we’ve heard&lt;/a&gt; from 2010 Georgetown grads about how miserable their prospects from this T-14 are. We’re seeing students in the top third at 34-ranked Fordham wind up &lt;a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/law/careercenter/lawArticleCareerCenter.jsp?id=1202459294285&amp;Fordham_Ls_Talk_About_Struggle_for_Summer_Jobs"&gt;unemployed&lt;/a&gt;. The Wall Street Journal told us about 2010 grads from number 11 Northwestern &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704866204575224350917718446.html"&gt;who are unemployed&lt;/a&gt; and moving home to live in the basement. And these are grads who "had the grades," and were high-paid summer associates a year before. It is NOT merely the "slackers" or "wash-outs" who are being hung out to dry.&lt;br /&gt;We’ve even heard from &lt;a href="http://www.hlrecord.org/opinion/unemployed-law-student-will-work-for-160k-plus-benefits-1.1179172?firstComment=20"&gt;Harvard grads who didn't get a job&lt;/a&gt;. And no, you are not guaranteed a "good job" even &lt;a href="http://www.hlrecord.org/2.4462/greetings-from-the-bottom-of-the-class-1.577832"&gt;coming out of vaunted Harvard&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These first-tier students are representative of the classes of 2009, 2010, and onward. They are largely unemployed or underemployed. One of the Georgetown students even surfaced on a law school blog, and noted that he tried to bring up the fact that the school lies and misrepresents its data, during the interview session. SURPRISE! It never made it on the air! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apart from these examples, what do we have to rely on? Surely, oil-slick deans at other T1 schools will claim, these mainstream-media-documented examples are just outliers. Everything is just rosy-pink at other 20s-ranked schools, at other T-14 schools. Right? Right. Enter the scam-buster:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Because a substantial portion of students at T14s are NOT getting full-time non-stipend positions (my guess is between 40 and 80 percent of non-HYS students are in this terrible bracket), but it's impossible to verify. This is not limited to the bottom of the class but extends to good students.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even in the T14 it's an insane gamble. The jobs aren't there to justify the time or tuition. You can dream all day about how the T14 students are all getting pampered like Tom Cruise at the beginning of "The Firm," but it just isn't so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Outside of T14 and you're looking at a total disaster. Vanderbilt? Boston College? GWU? UMinn? Those kids pay the same tuition you did and face a similar fate.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now before you pro-law school shills start attacking all of this as anecdotal, I must repeat: what else do we have? Data from schools CANNOT be relied on. All we can do is look at schools like Northwestern (11), Georgetown (14), Vanderbilt (17), Minnesota (22), and Fordham (34), and extrapolate. If these GOOD schools can't get grads, who are at LEAST in the top half of the class, ANY job, then what does that say? Alternatively, where is all the "good news" about how hiring is brisk, grads are all happy and content, and everything is peachy in law school land? There are none. Law school land looks like New Orleans after the hurricane, with well-qualified, elite grads left stranded on rooftops.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's revisit that commenter. 40-80% of non-HYS students. In other words, outside of the top three schools in the country, you may well have a 50% chance or higher of not finding meaningful employment. I’ll second the call that outside of the T-14 is a total disaster. We’ve seen number 17-ranked Vanderbilt students &lt;a href="http://www.lawschooltransparency.com"&gt;sounding the alarm &lt;/a&gt;about phony employment statistics and a lack of job prospects. UMinn (no. 22) just graduated a class where only a third of students are employed, in any capacity. To every law school shill or delusional 0L who thinks that just avoiding the “TTTs” will save them and still provide robust employment prospects, think again. Every law school outside of a HANDFUL of top schools is putting up TTT numbers these days.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Things will turn around by 2013 or 2014,” 0Ls and law schools will claim. Sure they will, son. If you’re totally confident in that, gamble your 100k. Just remember that even before the recession, the bottom 2/3 of the class at 20-40 ranked schools were pressed for jobs. Things are unbelievably bad out there. Beyond-description bad. I try to pepper my jeremiads with actual evidence and stories from the trenches, but these 0Ls and law school cheerleaders are quick to write it all off. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, I will end this post with a call for news from the first tier. Things are really bad in the first tier, but there are still surely some people getting good jobs (especially high in the T14). For every T1 grad who has a biglaw position or a nice clerkship, there are going to be embittered, scammed grads. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2010 grads from T1 schools, what is the view from your school? Where are you working? Is it a real, salaried, full-time position? Volunteer work? Deferred? Hourly doc review? For students still enrolled, how did summer employment turn out for you and your classmates? If, as our detractors claim, there is more good than bad out there, we should be inundated with rosy news. The WSJ and NPR must just be plain wrong to report on the dearth of legal employment. As these shills so often claim, scambloggers are just bitter, and we've got it all wrong. So here we go: let's prove us all wrong.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-6174843747463971767?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/6174843747463971767/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/every-school-is-ttt.html#comment-form' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6174843747463971767'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6174843747463971767'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/every-school-is-ttt.html' title='Every School is a TTT'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-8404144854144981402</id><published>2010-06-18T16:30:00.004-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-26T18:30:34.964-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cooking the books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unemployment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><title type='text'>A new low in faking employment numbers</title><content type='html'>During a bit of self-reflection that inspired another post, I made my way back to my school’s “Prospective Students” page to see just what salary data and employment numbers they were currently baiting 0Ls with. Salary data has since been removed, although it was definitely there a few years ago (as I relied on it). Who knows why it’s been removed…I can even see how it might benefit 0Ls by not tantalizing them with dreams of fat salaries upon graduation. (Although I’m sure they will be told by other sources about the  “huge” salaries they can expect.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What really caught my attention was an insidious new way of calculating employment statistics. Instead of “employed at six months,” or “of those reporting back,” we have this new level of depravity from law school shills:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBvKGn7NUsI/AAAAAAAAAAw/K9QL97hCuKM/s1600/wtf.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 122px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBvKGn7NUsI/AAAAAAAAAAw/K9QL97hCuKM/s320/wtf.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5484199186399056578" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;96.59% of graduates employed, out of those seeking employment. What the fuck is this shit?!?!?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How do you determine who is seeking employment? How do you gauge whether a grad is seeking employment? Isn't EVERYONE presumably seeking employment? How do you accurately represent what this metric means to a prospective student? Do you rule out students unemployed at graduation, and just shunt them off into the “not seeking employment category, to boost your numbers? (Yes.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can see the discussion down at career services now!&lt;br /&gt;Dean: We need a way to boost our sagging employment numbers! I want to see this fall’s incoming class packed to the gills!&lt;br /&gt;Shill: Well, dean, students are getting wise to our previous statistical shenanigans like “employed at six months” and “only those who returned the survey.” With 66% of the class graduating with no job, it’s becoming harder and harder to conceal this from naïve 0Ls!&lt;br /&gt;Dean: Well if 2/3 of the class couldn’t get a job, it must be because they aren’t trying hard enough! They probably aren’t even looking for employment! I know…we’ll change our reporting to reflect only those students who WANTED a job and FOUND one. Something about “only those seeking employment were employed.” That sounds like a tautological mindfuck that ought to throw 0Ls and USNews for a loop! &lt;br /&gt;Shill: *Awed, respectful silence at dean’s mastery of the scam.*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Watch out for this new level of scumbucketry and deception, gang. Count on the law schools to leave no stone unturned in their search for novel ways to assuage your fears about the economy and to get your tuition dollars. Matriculate at your own peril; odds are you’ll be one of those “not seeking employment” in a few years.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-8404144854144981402?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/8404144854144981402/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-low-in-faking-employment-numbers.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/8404144854144981402'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/8404144854144981402'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-low-in-faking-employment-numbers.html' title='A new low in faking employment numbers'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBvKGn7NUsI/AAAAAAAAAAw/K9QL97hCuKM/s72-c/wtf.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-1255107345611157284</id><published>2010-06-15T14:37:00.002-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-15T14:52:40.404-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='student loans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lost generation'/><title type='text'>We Are All a Lost Generation</title><content type='html'>It’s certainly been said before: &lt;a href="http://www.lawyeronaleash.com/index.php/blog/comments/a-lost-generation-of-lawyers/"&gt;we are the lost generation&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I recently watched the Class of 2010 from our prestigious law school go off into the world unemployed and with no prospects. The grads themselves put the unemployment level at about two-thirds of the class, an unbelievably horrible statistic for a school that was reporting graduate employment in the high 90s when these students matriculated. A quick glance at the results of career services’ employment survey shows a 35% response rate. It’s amazing how closely that mirrors what the students themselves claim as far as their collective employment status. I’ve been pondering what the implications of this are for these former classmates and peers. This kind of catastrophe has never happened to many of us. Certainly, many people have overcome great obstacles, tragedies, and disasters in life. We all have our personal difficulties to surmount. However, I doubt many people have seen their future really evaporate. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What happens when you hit full stop and realize that there really is no job for you? You realize that all you have worked for over years, maybe close to a decade, is for naught. It’s one thing to be waylaid by life’s curves and detours. It’s quite another to come to the end of the journey, the culmination of your young adult life thus far, and find that the road is closed. We go to school for the first quarter of our lives so we can get a job, find a profession, in which to spend the rest of it. What happens when this long-established road to employment, to professional life, to success, becomes impassible? Who do you turn to for guidance when your parents and mentors lived through the biggest economic boom times in living memory, when jobs were plentiful and the sky, or at least the suburbs, was the limit? How do you relate to people whose only experience has taught them that the only people who can’t get a decent job are lazy, inefficient, or defective?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In days of yore, disenchanted 20-somethings could decamp to the City of Light to ponder their place in the world and get slammed with Ernest Hemingway. Sadly, this is no longer an option for most. How is an intrepid graduate going to scrounge up the dough to hit Europe, or even some more affordable third-world backwater, with 150,000 dollars in debt hanging over their head?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The tens of thousands of scammed graduates, this lost generation, will not be knocking around Europe, writing the Great American Novel, and ruminating on some grand poetry in a Parisian salon. They will be working the cash register at Walgreen’s, mowing lawns for the parks department, and hunching over a computer screen in a dank basement reviewing documents for $15/hour--if they’re lucky. At night, they will slink home and fire up the stove for a meal of delicious Ramen noodles. Occasionally, their eyes will wander to the forgotten corner of their efficiency apartment where their undergrad, masters, law, or doctorate degree sits in a dusty frame. Having thus triggered a night of uncontrollable sobbing and/or binge drinking, this overeducated, overqualified debt peon will catch a few winks of sleep before having to get up and grind it out again for $8 an hour.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you remember what it was like to dream big? High school graduation is, for me, only a few short years in the rear view mirror. Be it five, ten, or twenty, everyone remembers. Some of us dreamt of being big shots. Many others were just excited to get out into the world, go to college, and get a decent middle class job and live like their parents. I sure as hell didn’t expect to see scores of people go off to four-year private universities, come home, and only be able to get a job cutting grass and de-icing asphalt for the Department of Parks and Recreation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those of us who postponed this harsh reality and took refuge in law or grad school are only prolonging the pain. Our financial reality will be even bleaker. Many of us put off imagining what living under six figures of non-dischargeable debt while earning peanuts must be like. It’s easy to forget that the dream we’re all working for—a normal, stable job, decent salary, and ability to pay back our debts and keep a roof over our heads—has vanished for millions of young people. Reading “DEFERRED-CURRENTLY ENROLLED” on your loan statement every month is akin to taking a nice big dose of opiates. The pain is dulled, reality slips away. The realization that you have been sold down the river by higher education and your lenders is postponed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Boomers will cry foul. It’s your fault, we’re told. No one told you to take out 75,000 dollars in loans to study political science. You should have known a master’s degree is useless. You’re a moron for not realizing that there are not enough jobs to go around. You ought to have realized the legal economy was going to implode and there never were enough jobs for all of you. You think you have it tough, well we lived during the 70s oil crisis! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You went to college and law school in a time where a semester’s tuition put you back mere hundreds of dollars. You may have started out with nothing, but you didn’t start out 50, 100, 150 thousand dollars in the hole. And although you started out small, there were jobs for you. You were able to climb the ladder. Dramatically fewer people held college degrees when you were working your first jobs and building your careers. You had it easy, by every measure, but you didn’t bother to make things easy for us. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We did not subsidize any and all higher education. We did not give schools a free pass to raise tuition every year, for decades, in the knowledge that the money would always come in because the feds were putting up the cash. We didn’t wreck the global economy. We didn’t destroy the American manufacturing sector and outsource millions of service jobs. We didn’t approve of legal work being outsourced to non-lawyers for pennies on the dollar in India. We didn’t arrange things so that the only job you can get with a B.A. is being a barista. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there is one thing we did do, and it’s cursed us ever since. We listened to you Boomers. We believed our teachers and parents who drilled into us the notion that higher education is the key to advancement. We believed the President when he told us that everyone should go to college. We believed you when you told us paying $40,000 a year for private college was an investment in our futures. We believed you when you said it was absolutely necessary to raise our public university tuition 15% year after year. We believed the bogus employment and salary statistics cooked up by unctuous law school deans who were eager to see Sallie Mae and federal loan dollars keep pouring in. We believed because we wanted to, but isn’t that what we are supposed to do? People are supposed to trust in their institutions: higher education, the government, the president. Their parents. Young people are supposed to be able to have faith in their elders. So yes, we believed in you, and now we’re doomed. While we figure out how to handle this student debt, forgive us if we have a hard time paying for your trillions in unfunded medical, retirement, and social security liabilities. You had the wheel; we believed you could bring us in safely. Well, now we can all go down together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A big thanks from the Lost Generation.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-1255107345611157284?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/1255107345611157284/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/we-are-all-lost-generation.html#comment-form' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/1255107345611157284'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/1255107345611157284'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/we-are-all-lost-generation.html' title='We Are All a Lost Generation'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-5742195659902058003</id><published>2010-06-13T22:24:00.003-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-13T22:42:44.763-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scammmed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='student loans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lost generation'/><title type='text'>Young people unable to afford a life? Convince them they never wanted it, anyway!</title><content type='html'>From the NYT we have yet another fluff piece about &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/us/13generations.html"&gt;why young people “just can’t get it together&lt;/a&gt;.” This is far from the first article discussing this trend, but it takes the same track as every damn one of them. Namely, “back in the day, it was a tremendous burden to get a job at 22 and work for the rest of your life, pay a mortgage, and have a family. Now, young people have independence! They don't have to conform to these outdated indicators of success!” What a load of horse shit. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The spin-masters try and fool young people into thinking that these markers of middle-class stability aren’t “worth it.” They tell us that, rather than being achievements and signs of prosperity, owning a home, being married, and raising kids is a tremendous burden and we should all be glad that we can’t afford to live this way. I'll agree that mortgages, marriages, and children certainly are a burden. Hey, life is a burden. I don’t know about you all, but I would much rather get a decent job in my 20s, work for the same company until retirement, and be “tied down” by the privilege of being able to afford a home, than be six figures in debt and live with my mom until age 40. Those stodgy old markers of the middle class sound really, really rough, I tell ya!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fluff pieces like this continually try to convince young people that drawing out life is great. What they fail to mention is how these generations have been utterly screwed to the point of no longer being able to AFFORD what was previously a very achievable middle-class life. For as much as they discuss (without citing any evidence of causation) how progressive social factors are to account for this, it’s clear to any 20something suffering through debt slavery and a looted economy that we’ve been sold out. It's not that 20somethings are all happily rejecting marriage and a picket fence en masse. (Some of them are, for various reasons, and more power to them.) It's that very few people in their 20s can AFFORD to live like their parents and grandparents did at the same age, thanks to educational debt and a lack of decent job options. If we hadn't jacked up the cost of higher ed and destroyed manufacturing and service jobs in this country, my guess is many millions more 20somethings would be quite pleased to be living the way previous generations did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These articles like to present delayed parenthood), living at home for years after graduation, and shitty jobs as the benefits of an enlightened society. We've all been convinced that this “freedom” is really stupendous, as a cover-up for how much we've been screwed. Purveyors of this "more freedom" lie apparently spend little time pondering the social effects of having tens of millions of young people shut out of traditional avenues of self-improvement and socialization. Used to be that getting a job and a mortgage was a great way to impart civic responsibility and a sense of collective work ethic on people. But I'm sure these things don't matter anymore, and we're all better off for being rid of this kind of "oppressive" thought.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe there are a lot of people these days who think waiting until 40 to ever afford a home, kids, a spouse, is just the bee’s knees. Maybe I’m really out of touch. I can’t be the only one who wants to get started on life, rather than spend the next 20 years in purgatory. Yes, there are more “options,” and social pressure for people who no longer want “traditional” lifestyles is alleviated. This is good; no one should feel like a pariah for foregoing a cookie-cutter lifestyle. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, when the trappings of this lifestyle—home ownership, the ability to provide for a family (if desired), disposable income—are now out of reach to millions of young people, something is very wrong. Telling us all how better off we are to be relieved of these burdens isn’t going to work. We all know that we’ve been priced out of a decent life. Young people are saddled with six-figure debt before they have a chance. The jobs that would have helped dig us out are long gone. As much as the media tries to tell us all how great and liberating it is to live in mom’s basement until age 35, I don’t think we buy it. It’s not some great social revolution that is causing people to delay adulthood, it’s economic reality. No one can fucking afford it. Just another daily reminder of how we’ve been scammed hard.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-5742195659902058003?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/5742195659902058003/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/young-people-unable-to-afford-life.html#comment-form' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5742195659902058003'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/5742195659902058003'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/young-people-unable-to-afford-life.html' title='Young people unable to afford a life? Convince them they never wanted it, anyway!'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-6471080099394753291</id><published>2010-06-11T15:52:00.005-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-11T16:37:01.185-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='top-law-schools.com'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='0Ls'/><title type='text'>New York-bound 0L should consider Fordham!</title><content type='html'>Above the Law did a nice little &lt;a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2010/06/college-student-exposes-everything-thats-wrong-with-0ls/"&gt;profile of a typical 0L&lt;/a&gt; who is headed to law school to kill time and ride out the recession. In New York, no less, where in addition to paying confiscatory tuition he can cough up for the ridiculous cost of living.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A lot of bloggers try to keep the kid-gloves on when talking about 0Ls. They think that by gently presenting the awful jobs data and sobering testimonials, 0Ls will see the light and reverse course. Prospective law students are really smart, right? Surely they can take these facts and arrive at a rational decision.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apparently not, as prospective students continue to logjam themselves into schools and take the LSAT in record numbers. For every would-be biglaw associate over at top-law-schools, there are probably two or three times as many &lt;a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127601863"&gt;Ryan Kams&lt;/a&gt;. In my anecdotal experience from 1L orientation, those of us who frequented forums, blogs, and sites like lawschoolnumbers.com, numbered perhaps 30. This didn't make us any smarter, but we had spent the past six months learning what OCI was and trying to one-up each other on our reasons for going to law school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This would-be 0L doesn't even feign an interest in "the law." &lt;blockquote&gt;"As far as I'm concerned, evading the real world for a little bit is not a bad idea, especially with the current economic climate," Kam says. "Law school is a great way to kill time."&lt;/blockquote&gt; Yes, it's also a great way to kill your future and finances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps we ought to take it to Mr. Kam directly. This can be a case study in shattering the law school myth. His mom joined the service out of college when there were no job prospects, something that in retrospect I also should have done. In any case, more 0Ls need to be taking a serious second look at a J.D. They can start by not believing the self-published employment and salary numbers schools put out. How might they find out what it's really like? Talk to the actual students.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One intrepid 0L over at TLS is on the right track: &lt;blockquote&gt;“[H]ow would T20-40 grads at median be getting halfway decent jobs... ... ::bites lip:: ... are T20-40 grads at median finding decent law jobs???”&lt;/blockquote&gt; Glad you asked! And the short answer is no. I do give you props for asking, and for assuming that you'll be near the median at a mid-ranked school. Ten points for realistic expectations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's take a look at one of these schools, number 34-ranked Fordham. While previously the top third of the class could look forward to good jobs, these days &lt;a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/law/careercenter/lawArticleCareerCenter.jsp?id=1202459294285&amp;Fordham_Ls_Talk_About_Struggle_for_Summer_Jobs"&gt;they're all screwed.&lt;/a&gt; And let's not forget what the bottom 2/3 of the class must have gone through, even before the recession. (This would include students at the median.) For only $62,000 a year, prospective students like Ryan Kam can also go to law school and end up working for free, or for $9/hour, like the poor souls in this article. Fordham self-reports 85.3% of its grads as employed, so you might still have a shot at an unpaid six-month volunteer position!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But hey, Fordham can't be THAT bad. I mean, Michael Clayton went there. Plus, it's in New York and is probably right up Mr. Kam's alley. Every prospective 0L who thinks they can hibernate near the median for three years in law school and emerge after the winter of recession, please listen to those who have gone before you:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"I mean, it's not just this summer we're talking about, this is the rest of our lives."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I couldn't have put it better myself, anonymous Fordham 2L. Perspective might be hard to come by as a 22-year old. It certainly was for me, and look where I ended up...in law school!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2534881846878881386-6471080099394753291?l=scammedhard.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/feeds/6471080099394753291/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-york-bound-0l-should-consider.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6471080099394753291'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2534881846878881386/posts/default/6471080099394753291'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://scammedhard.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-york-bound-0l-should-consider.html' title='New York-bound 0L should consider Fordham!'/><author><name>Scammed Hard!</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01044898077026675015</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4HC4JO8l7rA/TBHDVYhQ7iI/AAAAAAAAAAM/jRPnfbgAPXs/S220/ddl.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2534881846878881386.post-8319593704183222430</id><published>2010-06-11T01:36:00.002-03:00</published><updated>2010-06-11T02:20:03.332-03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law school'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='top-law-schools.com'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='0Ls'/><title type='text'>The problem with law school forums</title><content type='html'>For many prospective law students, online law school forums provide their first glimpse behind the curtain and opportunity to learn what getting a J.D. might &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;really &lt;/span&gt;entail. Recently, the law school scamblogosphere has discussed the failings of these forums, nearly all of which are packed with bright-eyed 0Ls rather than battle-weary students or lawyers. Most posters on sites like top-law-schools.com, autoadmit, or lawschooldiscussion, possess an outlook on the legal industry and job market that is quite different from the perspective of current law students, lawyers, or casual readers of newspapers. Sites like these are replete with thread titles like: "Where should I go: Seton Hall (sticker) or Florida State (sticker)?" and "Is my 168 enough to get me into Vandy?" While they are not completely full of law school cheerleaders, the overall effect of these forums is to allow 0Ls with no experience to gas each other up about going to law school. Even given the current massacre in the job market, the majority of the posters have a certain...irrational exuberance...about the entire prospect of a legal education. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nine times out of ten, any lawyer or current student who shows up on these boards and tries to dissuade prospective students from matriculating is greeted with skepticism at best. More commonly, jeers and personal attacks get thrown out. To be honest, I probably would have reacted the same way as a 0L, or at least told myself “this guy is just a bitter failure,” which is a fair point. I’ll be the first one to admit that I’m bitter as hell. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem is that there are a hell of a lot of “bitter failures” these days. A lot of us who have been through the meat grinder would sincerely like to save potential future victims from such a fate. 0Ls who lash out at anyone who dares to sully their legal dream aren’t the type to take bad news well. They probably aren’t the types to rationally approach spending $150,000 on a degree of questionable utility. I say let these types go to law school. Fill it on up. Those who are so full of themselves that they are sure they'll all make top 10% and law review, can only be dissuaded by hitting the brick wall of reality head-on. Nothing is going to cause these 0Ls to abandon ship, short of actually hitting an iceberg.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What all of these 0Ls fail to realize is that we were all like them, not long ago. Starry-eyed, self-confident, and positive we were going to show that damned law school curve a thing or two! I even was a member of one of these boards before I matriculated, and it sure made me feel smug knowing that all of my fellow 0Ls were stoking each others' dreams and sticking our heads in the sand. We had it all figured out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently, &lt;a href="http://jdunderdog.blogspot.com/2010/06/im-convinced-that-we-have-no-allies-at.html "&gt;a few noble scambusters&lt;/a&gt; took it upon themselves to venture over to TLS and make a direct appeal to prospective law students asking them to reconsider. They were greeted with sneers and insults. As a second attempt, primo scambuster Locke decided to double down and &lt;a href="http://shillingmesoftly.blogspot.com/2010/06/jd-underdog-is-righttls-is-industry.html"&gt;see if he couldn’t get at least one 0L to re-evaluate his decision to attend. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's take a look at how these 0Ls handled a little friendly advice to reconsider going to law school:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Obviously you're unhappy with your own legal career, and you're compensating for that by telling ambitious 20-somethings that they will fail. You seem to get some kind of gratification out of all this, which is bizarre.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Admittedly, some of the anti-law school types who show up on these boards are blunt and visibly angry with the law. Do these 0Ls truly all believe that they are going to be immune to the depression, burnout, and attrition that plagues the legal profession? As they all self-identify as “the elite” who are all destined to be at the top of their class, then perhaps they are. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hell, I used to be an ambitious 20-something. I still am a 20-something, although law school has aged me terribly. (But you should see the other guys!) I don’t want to see any law student fail. My jaded outlook has nothing to do with wishing others ill. I’ve merely been hit head-on by the law school scambus and dragged beneath it, against the pavement, for several miles. Scambusting bloggers would really, truly like to see that as few people as possible suffer similar fates. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many forum members are proud they bypassed the T14 and received a “good scholarship” from a crappier school. This is swell, if true, and if they can really go to law school for dirt cheap, more power to them. They will only be out three years of lost time. However, I’m willing to bet that more than one excited 0L hasn’t investigated just how hard it will be to keep the scholarship. Some schools can be fair with the minimum GPA required to stay on scholarship. Many others set the bar ridiculously high with the intention of yanking students off scholarship after their grades come in. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the end, these 0Ls mount a valiant defense of their decision to go to law school. They are articulate and moderately well-informed about market conditions. They realize that the job market sucks. However, no matter how many of them cite their “actual desire to become a lawyer,” or “lack of expectations for biglaw anyway,” it’s clear many are in denial about their decision to gamble $90-150k on the off-chance that everything turns around by 2013 or 2014.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;A 0L speaks:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The regular posters…are extremely well informed, we've done the research on this. We know the economy is shit and that the legal profession is not likely to recover any time soon. If anything, maybe you could say we are cautiously optimistic that things might be better by the time the class of 2013 is looking for jobs. But there is NOBODY here that thinks everything is great and we're all going to get jobs.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I must ask: then why the hell are you all going to law school? (“&lt;a href="http://www.kaplan.com/aboutkaplan/newsroom/Pages/newsroom.aspx?ID=571"&gt;Because it’s not going to happen to ME&lt;/a&gt;!”) Yeah, bro, I thought the same thing just a few short years ago. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More from 0Ls: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Most people on this site, it seems, are either getting substantial scholarships at riskier schools, or attending schools with decent odds. Is it gambling? Sure. Are many of us already faced with years of unemployment/underemployment due to our undergraduate degrees, many of which were sought simply to proceed to the JD? Absolutely. For a lot of us, this situation blew up after we were dedicated to this track. It's hard, Junior year of undergrad, to decide that you're suddenly going to become an engineer, or a Doctor.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dedicated to this track? As in, invested perhaps 100 hours studying for the LSAT, buying a few Powerscore books, maybe plunking down for an actual prep course? Consider that a fee for having learned to avoid law school. I know it’s hard as an undergrad seeing your plan torpedoed and not knowing what to do. Many of us felt like law school was the only thing to do given our undergraduate degree. The time and money you have “invested” in your law school dream is insignificant compared to how much precious time and money you are going to light on fire chasing that J.D. Write off what you’ve done so far as a learning experience, but &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs"&gt;don't let it color the future and make you think you have to keep chugging along&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for deciding you’re suddenly going to become an engineer or doctor? How is it any harder than deciding you’re going to be a lawyer? In every case, you’re deciding to take on additional schooling and debt in hopes of getting a professional job. It’s exactly the same decision-making process involved in choosing law school. The economy took a dive after you decided you wanted to go to law school. Schools outside the T-14 are seeing double-digit unemployment rates. Even some qualified grads from the very top schools are working for free or not finding real, full-time work. I can’t emphasize enough how bad it is out there. 0Ls' optimism and self-confidence would, in other circumstances, be admirable. Having been there ourselves, we can say: please listen to the bloggers and disenchanted lawyers out there! No one has to stay on the track to law school just because it has been their plan. Things have changed; perhaps we all ought to as well. 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